Signing On

Fridge3

ghost_whistler wrote: »

By a couple of miles, yes.

The other office is rough as f... and i've no wish to be attacked.


The library that, as i said to you, isn't open.

You demand other people do what you say, you criticise the unemployed - in this thread and all over thios forum with an appalling degree of prejudice - and yet when i gave you the exact quote to answer your question you can't even disply the slightest courtesey to even read it. You demand respect from others, like the rest of the benefit bashers here, yet make no attempt to reciprocate.

I don't watch daytime TV. I've no interest in tv gossip, home makeovershows or unpleasant talk shows. My time is my own to use in ways that will benefit me. Not to be spent idling in the centre of town staring at the pigeons just to appease the right wing. I need neither your approval nor your permission to spend my time doing whatever I choose, whether that time is spent on my own pc looking at the DWP's hopeless jobsearch site, or visiting corporate websites, or managing my own health issues, which do not disappear just because I have to claim JSA.

Perhaps we should ask you to justify how you spend your time?

And 'working' isn't an answer. Plenty of people work and contribute nothing - most of them sit in the houses of parliament at considerably more public expense than any single JSA claimant.

You appear to be the one electing to demand things with statements like "do I have the right to demand" right from the OP.

Rather hypocritical to vilify workers just because they think it's reasonable you fill your time constructively whilst waiting to claim benefits then presume you are better than than other benefit claimants at a different office.

The fact remains that you have no right to expect people to justify how they spend their time, as I suppose you would argue they don't you.

However when you post on an open forum making demands about what DWP should do to assist you with your problem so that you can receive free money it's quite reasonable to expect you've waived that right. When you further dismiss sensible suggestions about how you can help yourself it's very reasonable to expect you have waived that right.

Fridge3

ghost_whistler wrote: »

Depends what time they give me to sign on.

If there's worthwhile voluntary work to be done then I'm all for it, ppl should get their benefits for free if they work as volunteers.

But I don't do things just beause they look good on a piece of paper.

As opposed to?

fresian_cow

Just read this thread all the way through and at risk of being shot down why not just worry about this if/when it happens?

ghost_whistler

Fridge3 wrote: »

If you feel it's a waste of time why don't you just not go? It is your prerogative after all.

Are you deliberately missing the point for a reason, or just to troll?

ghost_whistler

Fridge3 wrote: »

As opposed to?

fulfilling the requirements of the jobseekers agreement, which I'm guessing you aren't familiar with judging fromt his reply.

fresian_cow wrote: »

Just read this thread all the way through and at risk of being shot down why not just worry about this if/when it happens?

If only that were possible. Sadly i'm not wired that way.

Arg

Fridge3 wrote: »

You appear to be the one electing to demand things with statements like "do I have the right to demand" right from the OP.

Rather hypocritical to vilify workers just because they think it's reasonable you fill your time constructively whilst waiting to claim benefits then presume you are better than than other benefit claimants at a different office.

The fact remains that you have no right to expect people to justify how they spend their time, as I suppose you would argue they don't you.

However when you post on an open forum making demands about what DWP should do to assist you with your problem so that you can receive free money it's quite reasonable to expect you've waived that right. When you further dismiss sensible suggestions about how you can help yourself it's very reasonable to expect you have waived that right.

The question was could he change his sign on times based on his circumstances not the stupid suggestions that he recieved.
Infact I think there was only a post or two that actually answered what was asked as for the majority of posters on this thread they can !!!! off with their nonsense.

KxMx

Well on that fortnightly trip you could take care other day-to-day errands in the town and arrange things so you do so-and-so on your sign-in day to use up some time. I'm afraid generally you have to fit yourself around the JC's rules, as other posters have said this may mean getting the only 2 buses that run all day. I am afraid when you are in a rural area when you rely on public transport you can't expect things to be easy and accept these hardships.
I am not being unsympathetic, I have lived in a rural area relying on buses and encountered many difficulties. I have been there, done that and worn the t-shirt!
Once I had to travel 1 hour each way weekly for a 5 minute hospital treatment, on 2 hourly buses into town and then an inter town bus to/from the Hospital.

Bamber19

ghost_whistler wrote: »

Employers that want staff will make the fact known, no employer doesn't advertise (unless it's internal only) that they want staff and just sits back expecting people to come to them.

Depends on the type of work really, my employer currently does not advertise any posts but even in the last couple of months there's been 10 new staff members, every one of them employed by sending in a CV and covering letter. Cv's come in every single day, advertising posts, performing a sift and interviewing loads of people in a deliberate recruitment exercise is time consuming, we already have a few strong candidates on file and add more every so often when a strong cv and letter come in, we don't waste time when we need someone, we call those we ahve on file.

Previously we had to advertise sometimes if no-one was writing, but right now there's no need because letters come in all the time. I'm sure there are plenty of other employers in the same position.

ghost_whistler wrote: »

Depends what time they give me to sign on.

If there's worthwhile voluntary work to be done then I'm all for it, ppl should get their benefits for free if they work as volunteers.

But I don't do things just beause they look good on a piece of paper.

Whilst working as a volunteer is a good thing it's not looking for work which is what JSA is about, it'll improve your prospects having it on your cv as opposed to doing nothing but it wont get you a job on its own so benefits for volunteering is no use.

It's not about it looking good on paper, it's about it looking good on paper to your next employer.

cassieB57

ghost_whistler wrote: »

They haven't done postal signing since the tories introduced JSA when they were last ruining the country. I doubt it's been introduced in the meantime, even during this recession.

In fact postal signing hasn't been stopped, but it is not generally offered and most jobcentres dont do it. It isn't as far as I know governed by any statutory regulations therefore there is no right of appeal; but by the guidance which says postal signing can be agreed if the journey is more than (I think) 90 minutes - its argued that if your JSAg states you are available to work within 90mins from home and start at a particular time you should be available to travel the same distance to sign on at the same time.

cassieB57

Bamber19 wrote: »

it'll improve your prospects having it on your cv as opposed to doing nothing but it wont get you a job on its own so benefits for volunteering is no use.

I disagree. I know personally of someone who was offered paid work on the back of the volunteering he was doing; he worked so hard to get a qualification, volunteered to help other students trying for the same qualification, and now has a paid teaching post. This was at the age of 49 after a complete change of career! So it is possible.