ESA Medical - here we go again!

NASA_2

celinepatricia wrote: »

Why only sometimes?

Some of them dont claim under the special rules.

celinepatricia

Maybe they dont all know about special rules.

elainey_2

melbury wrote: »

Does anyone know the date on which the descriptors change?

I have to go to the medical with my OH because he cannot speak. Seems though from looking at the new rules that as long as he can write or type to communicate then everything is fine - what a joke!

It just makes you feel like giving up.

They change on the 28th March if this helps

Love elaine xx

dmg24

celinepatricia wrote: »

Maybe they dont all know about special rules.

Most clinicians involved in palliative care know. However some people still choose not to claim under those rules, makes the finality of their condition all the more real.

NASA_2

celinepatricia wrote: »

Maybe they dont all know about special rules.

Possibly, but the forms do mention special rules, for good reason they dont explain exactly what special rules mean but people can enquire or a representative can claim under the special rules for their client.

2009timeforchange

Please remember that ATOS and the DWP need to know if conditions have got better or worse. You mention your husbands condition has got worse therefore a medical is necessary to check he is receiving the right help.

cit_k

dmg24 wrote: »

Have you provided medical evidence to support what you have written?

Funny thing that, seeing as ATOS never provide any medical evidence to back up what they write in their report....

cit_k

melbury wrote: »

My OH received his second ESA50 form a couple of weeks ago. We completed it almost immediately and sent it straight back - his health has actually deteriorated since his original medical assessment six months ago.

I thought they just might bypass the ATOS medical this time and leave him for a few more months, but no, the appointment came today for two weeks time.

I did actually telephone DWP today and request a copy of his last medical report, I know that I should have done this months ago, but it just sort of slipped:o

This ongoing process of dealing with that massive form and then the stress of attending the medical assessment is awful.

Is it always the case that you get called for a medical assessment every time?

As things have tightened up even more, I can see we will end up having to appeal this time and face a tribunal:eek:

Ring them up (and also put the request in writing) and ask for a copy of the lima pre-board report the ESA 85a form.

When you send in your ESA form, which you did, it first goes to ATOS, who have to do a preboard report which decides if you are likely to be suitable for ESA (either group) without a medical, or if they need to assess you in person. This recommendation is then passed onto the decision maker, along with reasons why.

The ESA85a report is the form you need to ask for as it will (or rather it should, but most likely will not) show the reasoning behind why you were called for an assessment.

melbury

cit_k wrote: »

Ring them up (and also put the request in writing) and ask for a copy of the lima pre-board report the ESA 85a form.

When you send in your ESA form, which you did, it first goes to ATOS, who have to do a preboard report which decides if you are likely to be suitable for ESA (either group) without a medical, or if they need to assess you in person. This recommendation is then passed onto the decision maker, along with reasons why.

The ESA85a report is the form you need to ask for as it will (or rather it should, but most likely will not) show the reasoning behind why you were called for an assessment.

Thanks, do I need to ring DWP or ATOS to request the ESA85a form?

When I phoned DWP yesterday to request a copy of his last medical assessment report, I asked who actually got the ESA50 form first and was told that they did, not ATOS. But you are saying that it is ATOS who decide whether or not to call you in. Is this right?

I feel ground down by it all, but I suppose this is what they want:mad:

Invalidation

Hmmmmmm !
The question must be asked. What if the DWP state they consider you fit for work. You, possibly against your own, Doctors and possibly consultants recommendations therefor go and get a job as directed by DWP, you then have an an accident harming yourself or even another. Surely this would leave them open to legal action. ?
I would certainly consider it so.