Asda ...... petty ?

nervousftb_3

About 6/7 years ago when I was about 20 I was in our local Co-op buying a newspaper - and I got asked for ID! When I asked what I could possibly get up to with a Mail on Sunday the cashier replied that it had just come up on her computer screen that she had to ask, but she assumed it was because it was 'close to Bonfire night'?! Never did work that one out....

CWCDiver

Idiotic supermarkets making up idiotic rules.

There is no legal requirement to see ID from someone who is simply in the company of someone buying an age restricted item.

jizadine

Idiotic supermarkets making up idiotic rules.

Its actually called Challenge 25 and it's not just supermarkets making up the rules.

Google "your.asda.com/challenge-25" to find out how Asda apply this.

J

CWCDiver

jizadine wrote: »

Its actually called Challenge 25 and it's not just supermarkets making up the rules.

Google "your.asda.com/challenge-25" to find out how Asda apply this.

J

Yes, it is supermarkets making up an idiotic rule. I do not need to look at the Asda website to know that.

There is no LEGAL requirement to see ID from someone if they are accompanying a person buying an age restricted product.

the_mum

I was ID'd last November, twice in the space of a few days, by the same woman! This is my local Co-op, that I often frequent for wine, bread and milk. Geez I'm 30 this year, have 2 kids and definitely do not look under 25!

stephen77

CWCDiver wrote: »

Yes, it is supermarkets making up an idiotic rule. I do not need to look at the Asda website to know that.

There is no LEGAL requirement to see ID from someone if they are accompanying a person buying an age restricted product.

But why do you think they make up idiotic rules that decreases the amount they sell?

I would guess its worrying down to headlines of "ASDA sells booze to children".
So while it idoitic rule, the media etc has to take their share of the responsability.

Jeff_Bridges_hair

pulliptears wrote: »

I went to see a band the other night with my lad, got to the door and was asked for ID. Slightly amused I pointed out I was 37, and though I agreed I looked a little younger 18 was a stretch. "Policy" replies the doorman. I had no ID on me (not top of my to carry list anymore!) but was allowed in.
The next window was handing out wristbands red for no alcohol, green for alcohol. Despite my protests that I was obviously over the age of 18 they still refused to green band me.

I'd intended to have a few drinks in there, but ended up with a can of pepsi that lasted me all night because I was determined not to buy another

I understand policy, I appreciate its a club and full of underagers but lets be honest here, there is no way in the world I look remotely under 21.

Ill be the judge of that.. Pics please

Pelican_eats_pigeon

nervousftb wrote: »

About 6/7 years ago when I was about 20 I was in our local Co-op buying a newspaper - and I got asked for ID! When I asked what I could possibly get up to with a Mail on Sunday the cashier replied that it had just come up on her computer screen that she had to ask, but she assumed it was because it was 'close to Bonfire night'?! Never did work that one out....

Well, burning is about the only thing the Mail on Sunday's good for...

rozmister

967stuart wrote: »

the women serving then grabbed the cigarets and demanded ID ....... from her !! , she asked what on earth she is being ID'd for and the women said because he 'could be buying them for her' !! (she is 29 as well ....)
Only in Asda !!

Not only in Asda at all. The policy of IDing a group is recommended and taught in all major supermarkets that sell age restricted products. The reason you do this is in case the adult is purchasing it for a minor which may seem silly to you but if you sell an age restricted product to an adult who then supplies it to the minor and as a retailer you haven't taken neccessary steps to prevent this (IDing the group) you are prosecuted as if you sold the product to the minor.

giraffe69 wrote: »

When you go and work for a supermarket do you get training in how to guess someone's age?

Yes you do get training. They show a scary video about what will happen to you if your caught where people who work for the company who have been caught talk about how it's ruined their lifes (cars repossessed to pay fines, criminal records, stores losing their licence and losing lots of revenue) and then you are shown pictures of lots of people and have to guess their age. When you struggle you're told the lesson is "If you aren't sure ID". Unfortunately gauging someone's age is a fine art you learn as you get older but supermarkets generally employ young people as they are more flexible on hours and will work anti-social hours and so they do struggle with it and follow what they were taught - If unsure it's better to cover yourself from prosecution and ID.

CWCDiver wrote: »

Idiotic supermarkets making up idiotic rules.

There is no legal requirement to see ID from someone who is simply in the company of someone buying an age restricted item.

It is an unwritten requirement of possessing a liquor license to enforce at least a think 21 policy and preferably a think 25 policy. If you don't have these safeguarding procedures in place when you apply for a license/renew your license it's very unlikely to be granted a license to sell age restricted products. So in theory you can possess a license without enforcing these but in practice it is viewed as irresponsible retailing and counts as a very large strike against your business when you come to apply or reapply.

The think 21 policy is a government funding initiative and they send 18/19 year olds into stores to test if you are enforcing it. If you are caught not enforcing it there is no legal punishment (you didn't break the law) but it is reporting to the licensing board and you are pushed towards doing further training with your staff and keeping more detailed records of how you enforce a responsible retailing policy for age restricted products.

nervousftb wrote: »

About 6/7 years ago when I was about 20 I was in our local Co-op buying a newspaper - and I got asked for ID! When I asked what I could possibly get up to with a Mail on Sunday the cashier replied that it had just come up on her computer screen that she had to ask, but she assumed it was because it was 'close to Bonfire night'?! Never did work that one out....

It may be that there was a voucher for a free age restricted product in the paper. Silly I know but if there's a free DVD that is a 15 or a voucher for a free pint in Wetherspoons or free sparklers the cashier has to ID the person purchasing the paper. I don't know what the legislation surrounding this is (I haven't been taught it in my job role) but it is generally company policy.



I understand that being IDed when you are definitely old enough to buy age restricted products is a massive pain but working on the other side of the fence as a supervisor on busy weekend shifts for a top 4 supermarket I know that you HAVE to enforce the rules in this way.

People like me are held accountable if the improbable happens and we, or a colleague who we are supervising, ends up selling age restricted products to a minor. I could get a £1,000 fine, Criminal record (which could prevent me working with children/entering other countries) and lose my job.Plus the store I work for could be fined thousands of pounds and lose their alcohol license (which would lead to redundancies due to loss of trade and profit).

That's why we retailers are over-cautious with IDing because what may be an inconvenience for you would be a complete loss of livelihood for us if we didn't ID the one time we needed to. Quite simply it's better safe than sorry!

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rozmister wrote: »

Not only in Asda at all. The policy of IDing a group is recommended and taught in all major supermarkets that sell age restricted products. The reason you do this is in case the adult is purchasing it for a minor which may seem silly to you but if you sell an age restricted product to an adult who then supplies it to the minor and as a retailer you haven't taken neccessary steps to prevent this (IDing the group) you are prosecuted as if you sold the product to the minor.

But where do you draw the line at this. If a grandma goes into a supermarket with her 10 year old grandson and buys alcohol as well as other goods, should she automatically be banned from buying it without proving that her grandson is over 18, which obviously she can't?

Do all people coming to the tills with alcohol need to prove they are 18 or over just in case the buyer gives it to them?

What about families? Or then does that depend on how they look? Nice middle class couple with 14 yr old twins buying Chateau Renoir '89 yep no need to ID everyone as the wine is 'obviously' not for the kids. :think:

Chavette with bad fringe in Kappa with 14 yr old son buying a bottle of White Lightning along with her shopping. Well 'obviously' she's gonna give him the bottle as soon as she's out the shop with cries of "Get it down your neck son!":eek:

My point is either you refuse to sell alcohol to anyone in the company of a minor or
you make a judgement call on how you responsible you perceive the people with a minor are from their look.

Both of these solutions are going to annoy people.