Asda ...... petty ?

zoesmummy_2006

I used to work in sainsburys part time and on my evening shift once i had a group of lads come to my till with 3 crates of beer. I asked for id as wasnt convinced any were old enough, none had any. One of their dads turned up with his shopping as i was refusing to serve them for lack of id, and started shouting the odds at me. Had to explain that as none of them had id i couldnt serve them at all, and he said 'fine, ill buy it with my shopping then'. Had to then go on to explain that i couldnt serve it him knowing that he was buying it for them! In the end i had to get my supervisor over to have a word as the guy was getting quite angry, but i was doing what the law said. If they were old enough, which was debatable hence me asking, then they should have had some form of id on them knowing they were gonna buy alcohol.
On the flip side-god id love to be asked for id. Im 30 now, but dont look it, tho i def look bout 25. Last time i was id'd was when i walked my now ex husband out of one bar to say goodnight cos he was working in the bar next door-the bouncer on the door wouldnt let me back in! My bag with my id was inside with my sister and friends!.he was just a muppet trying to be big lol! Got the bar manager to come out n have a word then got my id n showed it him n told him where to go! Not clever im sure but it made me feel better!

DCFC79

zoesmummy_2006 wrote: »

I used to work in sainsburys part time and on my evening shift once i had a group of lads come to my till with 3 crates of beer. I asked for id as wasnt convinced any were old enough, none had any. One of their dads turned up with his shopping as i was refusing to serve them for lack of id, and started shouting the odds at me. Had to explain that as none of them had id i couldnt serve them at all, and he said 'fine, ill buy it with my shopping then'. Had to then go on to explain that i couldnt serve it him knowing that he was buying it for them! In the end i had to get my supervisor over to have a word as the guy was getting quite angry, but i was doing what the law said. If they were old enough, which was debatable hence me asking, then they should have had some form of id on them knowing they were gonna buy alcohol.
On the flip side-god id love to be asked for id. Im 30 now, but dont look it, tho i def look bout 25. Last time i was id'd was when i walked my now ex husband out of one bar to say goodnight cos he was working in the bar next door-the bouncer on the door wouldnt let me back in! My bag with my id was inside with my sister and friends!.he was just a muppet trying to be big lol! Got the bar manager to come out n have a word then got my id n showed it him n told him where to go! Not clever im sure but it made me feel better!

well done, glad you did,

im an ex js employee and even though i didnt refuse many purchases i did ask for id alot though

kazzah60

Freddie_Snowbits wrote: »

I would be proud to hand over my ID, then tell the [STRIKE]stupid clonk[/STRIKE] nice girl to shove the whole shopping and her self into me car and we will party like it is 1978

aah Freddie.........1978 - what a brilliant year that was
the best time of my life...............:beer:

Unintentional

I went to a small corner shop to buy some cigs. I'm nearly 20 years old and I look fairly young so I expected to be ID.

She spent a good minute looking back and forward between the ID and me. I asked her if there was a problem and she said she didn't think the person on the ID was me because it didn't look like me. I told her that the picture was taken nearly 4 years ago so obviously I look different to the ID. She then accused me of borrowing someone else's ID to buy fags. I almost lost my temper but I firmly told her that it was my ID and asked her if she was going to sell me some cigarettes or not. I even showed her my Credit card, Debit card and national insurance card to prove it was my name. But since she messed me around so much I decided to go without for now and left the shop.

I agree that the whole supermarket asking everyone with you for ID is ridiculous. If the person buying age restricted products decides to give it to an underage person, it's them breaking the law not the cashier. I have it all the time at work. Parents coming with a 10 year old kid in tow to buy Call of Duty: Black ops (An 18 rated game) and I sell it to them without a fuss, because it's up to them what they do with the item once they've bought it not me.

Sharon87

pulliptears wrote: »

In Tesco the other week I picked up a bottle of Jack Daniels BBQ Sauce, absolutely gorgeous over a nice pork chop. Anyway, I get to the till and cashier is scanning my shopping. On reaching the sauce the till beeps and stops. The young girl looks from the sauce and then to me in bemusement. "Has that just asked for ID?" I say? Laughing she says "YES!!!".
To add to the farce, as she was under 18 she then had to call a colleague over to authorise the sale of said BBQ Sauce causing further amusement both to us, staff and the queue behind.

The percentage of alcohol in that stuff means I'd probably have to drink well over 50 bottles to feel even slightly tipsy at a cost of £100 or more. Cheaper to buy the bottle of Jack I feel...

:rotfl:

I almost ID'd someone for that! I only had a quick glance at it, thought it was Jack Daniels! But it didn't ask for ID when I scanned it.

If I was still working at Asda I would use my common sense, I'd serve parents with kids, even if they have kids doesn't mean they can't give them alcohol. Parents can give alcohol to kids who are 5 of over legally. So what's the fuss? My mum bought me alcohol when I was 15/16 to drink inside the house, then I wouldn't want to go to parks and drink cheap cider and make trouble!

I agree about ID'ing someone who looks close to 18 and ID'ing their mates with them. But only idiots buy it with their mates anyway! When I went Asda with my mates when I was 17, they bought alcohol for the new year party as they were 18, we went and bought snacks and other non alcoholic drinks. So it's not like supermarkets can stop people under 18 drink and it's not their responsibility to either, unless of course they serve someone under 18.

I found in retail some of the people you get aren't the smartest... I mean they have no common sense sometimes. Not everyone of course, but a fair few.

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The stupid thing is refusing expired ID or ID that shows your below 25 but over 18.

Why not bring in a think 95 campaign just to be extra sure then?! Anyone who can't prove they are over 95 doesn't get served, no room for doubt then :eek::think:

rozmister

Print_Screen wrote: »

But where do you draw the line at this. If a grandma goes into a supermarket with her 10 year old grandson and buys alcohol as well as other goods, should she automatically be banned from buying it without proving that her grandson is over 18, which obviously she can't?
Both of these solutions are going to annoy people.

It's a judgement call, you're right. I personally wouldn't say anything if the adult accompanying the minor looks significantly older I'd only ID if the adult and minor look like they're close in age. It's all down to who serves you! There are some people with no initiative who make it as complex and annoying as possible.

For example a member of staff I supervise IDed me and then when I couldn't produce ID refused to serve me!! I'm obviously old enough because I have to authorise the under 18's sales on my shifts. There was just nothing going on in his mind to connect the dots at all. I've also seen someone who was obviously retirement age refused sale of a 15 DVD by an over-zealous cashier!

Unintentional wrote: »

I agree that the whole supermarket asking everyone with you for ID is ridiculous. If the person buying age restricted products decides to give it to an underage person, it's them breaking the law not the cashier.

If you sell alcohol to an adult who it's evident could give it to a minor whose with them at that point and you get caught you WILL be prosecuted. They may not enforce that policy with DVDs (although where I work we are trained to follow that idea for them) but with alcohol they do. Cashiers can receive the same penalties as if they directly sold the alcohol to the minor in that situation. Obviously it's pretty limited to selling alcohol to someone while the minor stands there or hearing them say they'll give it to their mate in a minute and ignoring it. If you bought 20 bottles of wine on your own but handed them over to a child when you got to the shop's car park it's not the retailers problem.

sarahg1969

rozmister wrote: »

If you sell alcohol to an adult who it's evident could give it to a minor whose with them at that point and you get caught you WILL be prosecuted. They may not enforce that policy with DVDs (although where I work we are trained to follow that idea for them) but with alcohol they do. QUOTE]

The law is different in relation to alcohol and DVDs. It is not an offence to sell a DVD to someone who is old enough, even if you think they may supply it to a minor. In fact, until January last year, it was not an offence to sell a DVD directly to an "underage" person.

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rozmister wrote: »

Cashiers can receive the same penalties as if they directly sold the alcohol to the minor in that situation.
Obviously it's pretty limited to selling alcohol to someone while the minor stands there or hearing them say they'll give it to their mate in a minute and ignoring it.

Unfortunately it seems it is not obvious to some cashiers as they enforce the "Everyone within your group or possibly within 50 ft must be 25 or over if you are buying alcohol unless you can prove you will not be giving it to them, which of course you can't as this would be proving a negative" rule.

It sounds like you actually have common sense though rozmister and do what I would expect a cashier to do and stop people who obviously are buying alcohol for a minor not those merely in the presence of one :T

Valli

CWCDiver wrote: »

There is no legal requirement to see ID from someone who is simply in the company of someone buying an age restricted item.

at least the Dunelm Mill SA asked, when my daughter handed over the scissors we were buying, who was PAYING for them. Quite happy that I was the one paying. No ID asked for!
Ironically, they are stork embroidery scissors FOR my daughter, who's 15, and studying textiles.