Should I Become a Wage-Slave or Not?

Martynb_

thorsoak wrote: »

My advice to you? You are young. Take the trial, then take the job. Don't agonise over it and don't analyse it - just do it.

You might not be averse to staying on benefits - but you may well find that within the next few years there will be no benefits for you.

I'm 68 - and in the past I've worked at jobs I've loved, I've worked at jobs I've hated - but why? BECAUSE WE NEEDED THE MONEY! Needs must when the devil drives!

Well, at £30 I could just deliver leaflets for the council 3 hours per week. In this McDonalds job I will be working 30 hours per week for the same £30. I'm not saying that money is the only motivatin factor; but it is a big part of it.

jennyfive

Have you given any thought to my education idea?

If you don't want a menial job you usually need the qualifications to get a better one...

no-oneknowsme

Martynb_ wrote: »

And what qualifies a person as someone who is "more deserving" than myself?

Well for a start someone who actually wants the job !

You on the other hand have posted that you dont dislike being on benefits !

Mr_Falling_Star

When's it my turn to have the OP's dilemma?

Blobby8_2

Martynb_ wrote: »

Well, at £30 I could just deliver leaflets for the council 3 hours per week. In this McDonalds job I will be working 30 hours per week for the same £30. I'm not saying that money is the only motivatin factor; but it is a big part of it.

Do both then !

[Deleted User]

Martynb_ wrote: »

Just need some advice.

I've got a weeks work training at the McDonalds Drivethru where I live. It's about 25 minutes walk away. After the trial ends I'll have the option whether to take the job or not; whether the job is for me or not. Great. No obligation to take the job.

But I'm worried about a number of issues.

I've been told that they bully, and I have been bullied before when I worked for them when I was 21 years old. I've been told that they are slave drivers, and I know that this is true from prior experience working in two different stores. I'm told that the job is monotonous and degrading. I know this as well, although this would be a somewhat subjective viewpoint.

I can't remember really having a great time working with them. I used to come home tired and my nerves where shot to pieces. I though the environment was robotic and oppressive, and I detested the managers who were nothing more than sycophants rushing round giving people their marching orders, which was the real reason I left there after a couple of months. It was not always bad. One particular manager was just lovely. He was gay. But you could relax around him.

I feel I've been pressured to take this job by the job centre. The woman at the job centre is being too rosey with me and she thinks that in a years time I will have climbed the ladder running my own store. I could only laugh at her comments, but I really wanted to rant at her because I don't get all that excited about big greedy corporations and their wage-slave underdogs. I felt that she was trying to get me to see that working there was all sweetness and light.

The only reason I would take this job is that it would be worthwhile taking it. After a calculation based on a 30hour per week on £6.04 per hour I will be £50 well off after I've paid my rent, my council tax, etc. The £50 better off calculation would include the tax credits I would get. So I would have in my hand each week something like £110 to spend on food, electric, etc. At the moment I get £60 per week. Although the extra £50 would be nice I think getting that amount would be too high a price to pay for working at this corporation, which really doesn't fit-in with my value system.

Financially, there doesn't seem to be any massive incentive to take the job. If after the April to April tax year my hours have dropped from 30 to 20 or less I would not get tax credits and the Housing Benefit would only half get paid. I'm left with virtually no money to work with.

Added to this is the long hours standing up and pleasing everyone who comes through the door, the short break of 45 minutes (even though the law stipulates a break every four hours!). So there's even less of incentive to take the job.

Am I able to cope with working for a corporation which must take large amounts of profit whilst I get paid a pittance and work like a slave? I don't think I can do that. I think that might harm my confidence rather than improve it. I'm not 19 anymore, so I'm not as naieve. And I reckon if I do get bullied or treat like a slave there I'll be the one to speak up against it, because I have developed a rebellious attitude over the years and that isn't going to go away.

What I fear the most is the double-dip - ending up with a job I hate and being financially worse-off.

You may think I'm being fussy or something. You may think "It's a job!" but that kind of wisecrack advice won't bring bread to the table.

So if you were in my position - taking into consideration the pro's and con's - would you still take this job on? Does £50 (or less if your hours happened to drop below 30) a week seem like a good incentive even though due to the nature of the job you may come to dislike it, or regret taking it?

I realise that your answer would be based upon your own value system and work ethic plus a combination of other factors whatever they may be.

Your suggestions and advice is much appreciated.

Dude - you really are a lazy !!!!.

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Martynb_ wrote: »

Just need some advice.

I've got a weeks work training at the McDonalds Drivethru where I live. It's about 25 minutes walk away. After the trial ends I'll have the option whether to take the job or not; whether the job is for me or not. Great. No obligation to take the job.

But I'm worried about a number of issues.

I've been told that they bully, and I have been bullied before when I worked for them when I was 21 years old. I've been told that they are slave drivers, and I know that this is true from prior experience working in two different stores. I'm told that the job is monotonous and degrading. I know this as well, although this would be a somewhat subjective viewpoint.

I can't remember really having a great time working with them. I used to come home tired and my nerves where shot to pieces. I though the environment was robotic and oppressive, and I detested the managers who were nothing more than sycophants rushing round giving people their marching orders, which was the real reason I left there after a couple of months. It was not always bad. One particular manager was just lovely. He was gay. But you could relax around him.

I feel I've been pressured to take this job by the job centre. The woman at the job centre is being too rosey with me and she thinks that in a years time I will have climbed the ladder running my own store. I could only laugh at her comments, but I really wanted to rant at her because I don't get all that excited about big greedy corporations and their wage-slave underdogs. I felt that she was trying to get me to see that working there was all sweetness and light.

The only reason I would take this job is that it would be worthwhile taking it. After a calculation based on a 30hour per week on £6.04 per hour I will be £50 well off after I've paid my rent, my council tax, etc. The £50 better off calculation would include the tax credits I would get. So I would have in my hand each week something like £110 to spend on food, electric, etc. At the moment I get £60 per week. Although the extra £50 would be nice I think getting that amount would be too high a price to pay for working at this corporation, which really doesn't fit-in with my value system.

Financially, there doesn't seem to be any massive incentive to take the job. If after the April to April tax year my hours have dropped from 30 to 20 or less I would not get tax credits and the Housing Benefit would only half get paid. I'm left with virtually no money to work with.

Added to this is the long hours standing up and pleasing everyone who comes through the door, the short break of 45 minutes (even though the law stipulates a break every four hours!). So there's even less of incentive to take the job.

Am I able to cope with working for a corporation which must take large amounts of profit whilst I get paid a pittance and work like a slave? I don't think I can do that. I think that might harm my confidence rather than improve it. I'm not 19 anymore, so I'm not as naieve. And I reckon if I do get bullied or treat like a slave there I'll be the one to speak up against it, because I have developed a rebellious attitude over the years and that isn't going to go away.

What I fear the most is the double-dip - ending up with a job I hate and being financially worse-off.

You may think I'm being fussy or something. You may think "It's a job!" but that kind of wisecrack advice won't bring bread to the table.

So if you were in my position - taking into consideration the pro's and con's - would you still take this job on? Does £50 (or less if your hours happened to drop below 30) a week seem like a good incentive even though due to the nature of the job you may come to dislike it, or regret taking it?

I realise that your answer would be based upon your own value system and work ethic plus a combination of other factors whatever they may be.

Your suggestions and advice is much appreciated.

OP you truly are unbelievable. Let me point out a few things for you.

1) You dont currently have a job therefore you need to get one.
2) Generally, they dont give out £100K jobs to people like you.
3) No-one cares if you dont like the sound of the company.
4) You're being pressured to take this job because thats the law (i.e. find work or lose benefits).

[Deleted User]

Martynb_ wrote: »

I don't dislike being on benefits. I have loads of free time, and stress is minimised so I am enjoying better health. I do wish to come off benefits but there has to be an incentive. I'm not a robot.

Fuk me I wouldnt mind sitting on my !!!! all day and getting money for nothing - I'd be less stressed too!

[Deleted User]

MrsE wrote: »

You're not bringing bread to your table & you're not putting a roof over your head though are you.

You & thousands like you are whats wrong with our benefits system.

You are nannied to the point where you would rather remain on benefits than work & pay your own way.......
You are like a spoon fed baby.

spot on here

Hammyman

Martynb_ wrote: »

Just need some advice.

I've got a weeks work training at the McDonalds Drivethru where I live. It's about 25 minutes walk away. After the trial ends I'll have the option whether to take the job or not; whether the job is for me or not. Great. No obligation to take the job.

But I'm worried about a number of issues.

I've been told that they bully, and I have been bullied before when I worked for them when I was 21 years old. I've been told that they are slave drivers, and I know that this is true from prior experience working in two different stores. I'm told that the job is monotonous and degrading. I know this as well, although this would be a somewhat subjective viewpoint.
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