Should I Become a Wage-Slave or Not?

Martynb_

LTP123 wrote: »

Hi Martyn,

How long have you been out of work? I worked for McDonalds for over two years and really enjoyed it. Yes it can be repetative and some of the managers are annoying but we were a real team and you got a good mix of people there. I doubt they would drop your hours as they are always looking for staff and are always busy.

At the end of the day only you can make the choice. £50 is a lot to be better off a week when the difference is £60 to £110. I would take it you never know after you have been there a few months something else better may come along and you will have something to put on your CV. McDonalds always makes me think, you remain calm under pressure are a team player and have a good customer servce attitude.

Up to you...

About 9 months unemployed. The employer at McDonalds did say that my hours would drop. Surely, something else will come along anyway regardless whther I am working or not?

My CV is also chock-full of jobs. I usually get a different job every two years, so my CV is brimming full of different jobs I've worked in over the years.

Martynb_

MX5huggy wrote: »

Its easier to get a job when you already have a job. Its a step to bigger better things.

That is true but what if you are not what the employer is looking for?

Martynb_

Jowo wrote: »

This should be in the Discussion Time forum as the OP wants a debate on whether they should take this job and isn't about a query about a specific benefit entitlement.

The OP should brace themselves for the response if it moves to DT...

My question to the OP is what is your proposed third option if you don't enjoy being on benefits and don't want to be a wage slave? What is your alternative proposal if you wish to come off benefits but can't find yousrelf a well paid interesting job?

I don't dislike being on benefits. I have loads of free time, and stress is minimised so I am enjoying better health. I do wish to come off benefits but there has to be an incentive. I'm not a robot.

Martynb_

GlasweJen wrote: »

Surely if you are offered a job and you refuse it you will be sanctioned for a period? I mean your benefits is for job seeking, if you refuse a job then how is that fufilling the terms of your benefit claim?

No.

I haven't been offered a job; I've been offered a work trial. Once this has ended I can then choose to take the job or not on the condition that the employer wants me to work for them.

I can refuse the job if it is not suitable.

chris1973

My CV is also chock-full of jobs. I usually get a different job every two years, so my CV is brimming full of different jobs I've worked in over the years.

That probably won't do you any favours in the long run. Most employers want steady employees who will be in for the long haul, rather than who seem to get their training and then up and walk away with another notch in their CV.

No offence intended, but from the prospective of SOME employers, that would perhaps look like somebody with a tendency to job hop, or use an employer as a stepping stone or one who just can't settle into a position, long term.

I know that most people move around in their careers a lot or get offered better paid positions, or if they are lucky enough ' head hunted' by a competitor. But 'crammed full' suggests a lot, and that may make a lot of employers twitchy before you even get invited to an interview to explain further.

Martynb_

sh1305 wrote: »

If you can't give a good reason, then you can possibly be sanctioned.

That is not true.

I have the choice whether to take the job or not because of the work trial which I am offered. I must take the work trial because it shows willing; I do not have to take the job.

Martynb_

chris1973 wrote: »

Why not try it and find out for yourself rather than making assumptions based on nothing but idle hearsay?. What would happen if you took the job and eventually worked your way up to management position and good money?. Would you thank the chinese whisperers for denying you the opportunity if you listened to them and walked away from the potential now?. Do those giving you this advice, deserve such credit?, do you consider them good and worthy career advisors?.

Just because you were bullied when you were 21, doesn't mean you will be now, time has gone by, its a different store - different manager and different people around you. Why not give it a try, and find out for yourself, what have you got to lose?.

I think you'll find that is the case for most jobs. You won't get any thanks for the work you put in either and you probably will never feel valued - well welcome to the club with millions of members. I've spent many years working for a guy who walked into Daddy's company with no product or marketing experience, no ground floor experience and no people-management skills or even basic common sense, even our own customers actively avoid speaking to him if they can help it!, and its damn frustrating watching the company run into the ground because the guy sits in his office day after day rather than go out selling products, and finding new customers. Want to swap?

Unfortunately, very few people walk into their dream job, and very rarely will they do so, unless they work their way up from the bottom first. A lot of the most successful business people out there started from humble beginnings or experience learned on the bottom rung.

Seems to me that you are building this up into something far more bigger and much more negative than it is, and then scaring yourself with it. If you actively seek out the negative with every opportunity that you are offered then sell it back to yourself as a reason not to do it, then you will never get out of a rut, which by that time, will be one entirely of your own creation.

All due respect, I've heard the "there's no such thing as a dream job" pitch before. I have found out for myself because I used to work for the coporation before. I don't really want to work my way up; the pyramid system of hierarchy states more often than not (and this is also in nature) that the further up you go the pyramid the less easier it gets. I don't want to be a McDonalds manager anyway. I didn't then and I don't now. I hated the managers; detested them - apart from one who was a nice guy. The rest were sycophants.

How do you know I'm in a rut? I'm not in a rut.

Martynb_

chris1973 wrote: »

That probably won't do you any favours in the long run. Most employers want steady employees who will be in for the long haul, rather than who seem to get their training and then up and walk away with another notch in their CV.

No offence intended, but from the prospective of SOME employers, that would perhaps look like somebody with a tendency to job hop, or use an employer as a stepping stone or one who just can't settle into a position, long term.

I know that most people move around in their careers a lot or get offered better paid positions, or if they are lucky enough ' head hunted' by a competitor. But 'crammed full' suggests a lot, and that may make a lot of employers twitchy before you even get invited to an interview to explain further.

Probably not. I am a job hopper. That is true. I cannot settle for more than a year or two. This is exacerbated by me moving home every two to three years. I can never settle in one town or city.

chris1973

How do you know I'm in a rut? I'm not in a rut.

I think you'll find most people here are in some kind of rut, or let me rephrase 'Are not happy or are undecided in their current situation', thats why this forum is so popular. If you are unique in this respect than I envy you greatly. Maybe you should be the advice giver, rather than the one asking.

Martynb_

chris1973 wrote: »

Then why post?

Because I wanted advice.