Can I Use Glysophate Now to Kill Ivy?

Puzzledbubbles

We had a very established Ivy plant along the 12 foot wall on the side of our property (and up the house)

In 4 months of hard work we removed every scrap ourselves, OH worked a little every evening and we worked together on weekends, we filled bags and bags with the waste that went to the tip and another 24 bags were collected by the council.

In order to kill off the final root we drilled a hole through its centre, poured normal house hold bleach into the hole, covered it with a carrier bag and elastic band and cue a few months later one dead weed (now covered in concrete)

I know that you are looking for the quick fix, there were quite a few we considered ourselves, but in the end, there is nothing like that feeling of accomplishment we still have for doing all of the work ourselves.

dogstarheaven

there's lots of versions of Roundup: Ready to Use, Concentrated, Treestump Killer - am unsure which to use. Also, been recommended Vitax's SBK Tree stump Killer - is this any good? All are quite expensive, so I would like a brand that is reliable and effective. Thanks for the tip about the crushing of the glaucous Ivy leaves and repeated applications.

dogstarheaven

well, i do appreciate the hours of labour i've invested in the plot that is done w/o any chemical reliance. already, i can see the lie of the land, and that the internal boundaries are looking a lot neater. i'm becoming quite attached to a lawn rake with a snapped handle that i've found abandoned. i don't know about your OCD tendencies about gardening, but I do enjoy a clean and tidy surface. all the lopped stems and the dead grass, and moss is satisfying to rake up, don't you find??!! i love that the main big bed i've dug - say about 14' x 5' is just lovely and black with not a speck of green or rooty bits in it (tho' that'll be kept in check before the weed seedlings come thru'). if only you could see the original state it was in where it was head high in bramble and ivy sprawling over the trees/fences and the ghostly reminders of tall dessicated bamboo-like stems of Japanese Knotweed.. it's always a joy to arrive each morning to see how much i'd worked on the day before. i'll just carry on with what i'm doing atm, and when i get the chance, i'll look at the weedkiller range later in the week. i'm that committed, i spent 4 days out of 7 since i took this on. for those of you whose experience is only of tending town sized gardens and stating that weedkillers are bad, would you like to take on a plot of this kind? maybe, you might find that you might succumb to the temptations of this devil's blood...

A._Badger

The key is on the label. Glyphosate is the active ingredient and everything else in the bottle is just along for the ride. If you look closely, you will see the concentration of active ingredient is in the printed information, expressed as a percentage. From there you can work out the cost and strength of the dose. You just need the strongest dose you can get. Sadly, as I said, I suspect that what would work best is (as so often in this country) is reserved for professional use only.

Good luck with what sounds like an unenviable task!

dogstarheaven

A._Badger wrote: »

The key is on the label. Glyphosate is the active ingredient and everything else in the bottle is just along for the ride. If you look closely, you will see the concentration of active ingredient is in the printed information, expressed as a percentage. From there you can work out the cost and strength of the dose. You just need the strongest dose you can get. Sadly, as I said, I suspect that what would work best is (as so often in this country) is reserved from professional use only.

Good luck with what sounds like an unenviable task!

which is why no-one wants to help me when i've asked for help. it'll take an awful lot of blood (yes, lots of bramble flaying about), sweat and tears before i can make the plot look beautiful. I can't wait for the summer when all the flowers are blooming. there's so much space on the plot now, i can grow everything i've always dreamed of. in my tiny back garden at home, most plants are in pots so a lot of my planting is really perennials that will ideally expand and flower more profusely if they were grown in the ground.

last yr, i had decided not to grow bearded irises anymore, and gave most of the divisions away as they are very time-consuming for a v. short but showy display. thankfully, with the potted rhizomes i've saved for a charity, will now go to a dedicated iris corner! my paeonies will flower for once and my climbers climb high and flower!!

Sambucus_Nigra

I appreciate that you have spent alot of time and effort on your plot - but knowing how JK takes over, I'd refer it back to the council and request one that wasn't contaminated. You should be disposing of every tiny piece properly, not in compost bins OR council brown bins; it will continue to grow violently from any scrap of root left in the soil and you almost have to nuke it to get rid.

What have you done with all the JK that you have hacked out?

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/business/sectors/31364.aspx

I'm not altogether sure that the council should rent out plots with JK growing on them???

dogstarheaven

the JK roots are still drying out in a big trough, then they'll go onto the bonfire. i've checked out the Environmental Agency link initially for IDing the roots/stumps. i know the council should of been truthful with me from the start when i went on a tour of spare plots, then i would of made an informed decision on whether my plot was suitable or not. esp. i've been organically growing all my life! when i went to complain, they didn't apologise or show any consideration. i've asked for a discount on the rent, but all they could say they'd review it when they go on their annual inspections in late summer... so you can imagine how angry and dissatisfied i was...

Sambucus_Nigra

dogstarheaven wrote: »

the JK roots are still drying out in a big trough, then they'll go onto the bonfire. i've checked out the Environmental Agency link initially for IDing the roots/stumps. i know the council should of been truthful with me from the start when i went on a tour of spare plots, then i would of made an informed decision on whether my plot was suitable or not. esp. i've been organically growing all my life! when i went to complain, they didn't apologise or show any consideration. i've asked for a discount on the rent, but all they could say they'd review it when they go on their annual inspections in late summer... so you can imagine how angry and dissatisfied i was...

I'm afraid I'd not be angry nor dissatisfied - I'd be on the rampage.

grandmaster00

ok well if no ones gonna follow the clue ill make it a little more obvious to you all lol............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonium_sulfamate

http://www.allotment.org.uk/garden-diary/189/ammonium-sulphamate-weed-killer-banned/

search ebay for it .... for use on your compost heap !!!!

grandmaster00

all the stuff you mention is childs play compared to horse tail or mares tail ammonium sulphamate even kills that !!!