Can I Use Glysophate Now to Kill Ivy?

GreenFly_2

dogstarheaven wrote: »

Can I use Glysphate Now to Kill Ivy

As long as Ivy isn't your wife it should be OK :rotfl:

cootambear

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

If you say so.

There have been tons of bits of research on glyphosate - I just picked one out of the air that I saw today. If you haven't seen them - you probably don't want to look.

Monsanto are good at burying bad news...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc1P-AEaEp8

Sambucus_Nigra

cootambear wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc1P-AEaEp8

Yes, that'll be it!

You've heard of the terminator gene, obviously.

We have every reason to be wary of Monsanto.

Sambucus_Nigra

A._Badger wrote: »

Or perhaps you only want to look at sites that do?

These things work both ways.

See my comments in the other reply. Monsanto is a bogeyman to the eco-warriors.

Just because they are seen as the bogeyman by people who have strong feelings on the topic - doesn't mean they are nice shiny happy people!

I'd happily use it if it was safe; however, isn't it banned from entering watercourses as it kills anything swimming around happily at the time? Thus, probably, not safe!

dogstarheaven

errr... may i just step into the ring, and ask politely if my questions can be answered. it's just that my plot is v. big and so are the weeding in it, and it's still dormant out there...

i know organic gardening is the way to go, but the site's been treated with Roundup for the past 3 yrs as there was Japanese Knotweed (all along boundary wall and 1/2 way into the plot). If the residue takes years for it to be eradicated, doesn't that mean my new planting this year will be thwarted? Has anyone been in my situation before with Knotweed and Roundup on their plots? I'm not convinced by the allotment organisation in their assurances that it's not regrown since. I had expected an apology off them when I confronted them about them not informing me of the Knotweed issue, as I have been organic all my gardening life (or else, I would of taken on a Knotweed-free plot before signing the agreement).

I know most ppl are on erring on the side of caution on the issue of nasty weedkillers, but when faced with the daunting task of the whole plot riddled with all manner of invasive, strong rooted weeds, wouldn't you want to resort to using it (tho' applied v. carefully - probably swabbing each and every stem and ensuring not a single drop touches the precious earth)? That may sound more tedious work than digging!

how about the willow suckers? They're everywhere, and having read on the net, that it'll still sucker unless you dig the original sources out... oh dear, that's just soososo painful:mad:

radiohelen

Blimey - Knotweed takes some killing. I've been trying to knock mine off for years. I religiously pour glyphosate down the inside of the stems in the autumn and it still keeps coming back.

Good luck with it. I'd go for the weed killers. Go organic once you have a neatly dug plot with proper beds and all that. Otherwise you are going to be playing catchup. I'd leave the half of the allotment that had the knotweed on it for now. Check and see if it comes up again and if it does you want to talk to the association and see if they can help you with the costs of removal cos you can't compost it and you can't take it to the tip!

Sambucus_Nigra

dogstarheaven wrote: »

errr... may i just step into the ring, and ask politely if my questions can be answered. it's just that my plot is v. big and so are the weeding in it, and it's still dormant out there...

i know organic gardening is the way to go, but the site's been treated with Roundup for the past 3 yrs as there was Japanese Knotweed (all along boundary wall and 1/2 way into the plot). If the residue takes years for it to be eradicated, doesn't that mean my new planting this year will be thwarted? Has anyone been in my situation before with Knotweed and Roundup on their plots? I'm not convinced by the allotment organisation in their assurances that it's not regrown since. I had expected an apology off them when I confronted them about them not informing me of the Knotweed issue, as I have been organic all my gardening life (or else, I would of taken on a Knotweed-free plot before signing the agreement).

I know most ppl are on erring on the side of caution on the issue of nasty weedkillers, but when faced with the daunting task of the whole plot riddled with all manner of invasive, strong rooted weeds, wouldn't you want to resort to using it (tho' applied v. carefully - probably swabbing each and every stem and ensuring not a single drop touches the precious earth)? That may sound more tedious work than digging!

how about the willow suckers? They're everywhere, and having read on the net, that it'll still sucker unless you dig the original sources out... oh dear, that's just soososo painful:mad:

Is this an allotment or a garden?

grandmaster00

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Seakay

I've used glyphosate because Bob Flowerdew said it was ok for organic gardeners to use it in an emerggency and not had a problem with growing on the soil after - not sure it'll cope with knotweed though. (Knotweed can grow through concrete!) Might help to crush the ivy leaves a bit before spraying so that less will run off the shiny surfaces - just trample them a bit should do it. If the willow isn't in leaf then the glyphosate won't have any effect on it.
You could try sything areas and then covering with cardboard/carpet etc - will impede growth (but not of knotweed!) and also warm the soil a little

Seakay

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

Is this an allotment or a garden?

It's an allotment - see #1 "just got myself a lottie last Mon"