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Toddler Toilet Training help! (merged)

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  • Rachie_B
    Rachie_B Posts: 8,785 Forumite
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    I just think that yeah although its only been 3 days i dont think it appears she was ready in the first place ?(just MO)

    just because she can communicate well doesnt = she has bladder / bowel control yet

    i stand by what i said and thats offer the potty at regular intervals til shes using it a fair bit before starting training in all earnest ,ie going everywhere in knickers not pull ups etc

    you can do more harm than good by trying to force the issue when a child isnt ready :( ,something ive learned from my own children and in my work as a nursery nurse

    not meaning to offend anyone just MO ;)
  • andycarmi
    andycarmi Posts: 1,072 Forumite
    Girls bladder muscles don't develop till around 2 years. (all children develop diffrent) This means with all the will in the world if her bladder muscles are not developed enough she wont be able to control it!!!

    It sounds simple. But bladder control takes teamwork from many organs, muscles, and nerves in your body

    After 3 days is not much time at all, you need to decide if your going to give it longer ask yourself

    If I stop now how will she feel? (I.E - low self esteem next time)
    If your going to stop training I would leave it a good while and start a fresh!
  • busymumof3
    busymumof3 Posts: 485 Forumite
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    My son (number 3) was 2 a couple of weeks ago and I am just reminded that I have the dreaded potty training to go through again. Confess I haven't even thought about it for him yet.

    I had a huge difference in my older 2. With the eldest - my son - I didn't start until he was about 2 and three quarters. He showed no interest and in fact managed to withhold everything until a nappy was put back on! I had a couple of attempts a few weeks apart but it wasn't until he started playgroup at 3 that the issue was forced as the children had to be toilet trained. Thankfully he just seemed to click at that time and the good thing was he was out of night nappies at around the same time.

    My daughter was a lot more interested and was absolutely no trouble at all at just over 2. She was a terror and wanted to go to every toilet when we were out just so she could wash her hands.

    I really didn't have accidents as both were ready at their very different times. Thankfully I never had to be one of those mums who have to keep continually asking if they need a wee wee or in the case of a friend having to carry about numerous pairs of spare pants. In my opinion that shows that the child wasn't ready for potty training but agree that it could be confusing to go back to nappies after a few weeks in pants.

    Hopefully number 3 will let me know in his own time that he is ready. He will take off his nappy if he has done a "blah blah" if I don't catch him first! I must say on balance I prefer to save my carpets and wait until it is obvious.
  • jenniferpa
    jenniferpa Posts: 1,036 Forumite
    I agree with the posters who suggested that she may be either too young or her bladder might be. I trained both my children in the summers when they were 3 in 2 days each. Firstly, they were able to come and tell me when their nappies needed to be changed, and also I found that in the summer they could run around in the house without anything on their bottoms which made it much easier to get to the potty in time, and they were also aware of when they had gone. You might also check if her nappies are too absorbent. The highly absorbent modern nappies are designed to let the child feel comfortable after urinating. When getting ready for training you want them to be slightly uncomfortable so they recognise what's happened.

    I know it's possible to train a child when they are younger (although sometimes I think it's the parent who's trained rather than the child) but it does take much longer. Honestly, I would suggest forgetting about for a month or so, and then try again. Apart from anything else, you have enough on your hands with a 7 month old. One problem with starting too young is that they can get into the habit of going anywhere, whereas you want them to think potty or not at all.

    JMHO

    Jennifer
  • Savvy_Sue
    Savvy_Sue Posts: 47,360 Forumite
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    I know this flies against what all the professionals say, but all I know is that when DS1 started doing poos in his pants when I left him at nursery, he only stopped when I told him in no uncertain terms that it was Not Acceptable, and he was Not To Do That, and I knew he Could Get To The Toilet.

    You have to be sure that he is doing it just to annoy you, rather than becaus he can't help it, but if ignoring it / praising him when he goes in the 'right' place don't work, that might be worth a try!
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  • chewy62
    chewy62 Posts: 192 Forumite
    Thanks Savvy Sue! I'm not sure what the right approach is, as the health visitor said not to make a big deal of it and just clean it up and say nothing, which I find very hard to do!! :mad:
    The fact that he smiles when he has done it really gets me cross, and I know that he is perfectly capable of going to the toilet! :mad:
    Well, I'll keep trying!
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  • Rachie_B
    Rachie_B Posts: 8,785 Forumite
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    :( have you tried rewarding him for when he goes in the toilet / potty rather than in his pants / the floor

    so for every time he goes where he should lol he gets a sticker / smiley face etc then after say 5 stickers he gets to choose a small treat comic eg / trip to the park

    reward charts work well for his age group in my experience :)
  • elaine373
    elaine373 Posts: 1,427 Forumite
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    I know this may seem like a problem but it isnt. I would not make a big fuss when it happens but gently remind him that now he is a big boy he should not be weeing on the floor etc. smiling when he does it, suggests to me that he may possibly be doing it to get a reaction??? Try not to show too much reaction if you can help it. Easier said than done i know.This is quite a common thing for pre-schoolers to seem to go backwards with a development.I am sure it will right itself,imho.
    “Love yourself first and everything else falls into line. Your really have to love yourself to get anything done in this world.” Lucille Ball.
  • pdoff
    pdoff Posts: 2,908 Forumite
    ds1 only pood his pants once after he was trained & he freely admitted he did it to get my attention!
    i also heard of a girl who weed every day at nursery so she could wear nursery trousers instead of her own as they were nicer!
    anyway, probably not much help but at least u know you're not alone.

    good luck!
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  • chewy62
    chewy62 Posts: 192 Forumite
    Thanks everyone! Food for thought! I have rewarded him today when he did anything on the loo, though I had to take him as he won't go himself.HV says he is at an age where he knows his actions can make a difference, so that might be it!
    Sept. grocery challenge = £500 (221.60 so far!;))
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