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  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Degenerate wrote: »
    What exactly is your point with this? It's about attempted new claims, not successful claimants. Ie, this isn't an example of people suceeding at milking the system, it's an example of the system filtering out such people. Reading past the Tory spin, one could actually infer from this that the system is fairly rigorous and the successful claimants likely to be genuine.
    The point is that the new system appears to be a lot more rigorous.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    edited 28 January 2011 at 9:21PM
    IronWolf wrote: »
    so you'd prefer us to abolish the minimum wage and treat the working class like slaves in order to compete?

    I don't get what you think our unions did to stop that happening, if anything they made it even less attractive to manufacture in the UK.

    What are you going on about, my point is that the weak neutered UK unions didn't do anything, at least the French unions stick up for their workers.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    This may be a rather dodgy point, but why should a British worker believe they are entitled to a higher standard of living than the equivalent Polish or Eastern European?
  • IronWolf
    IronWolf Posts: 6,445 Forumite
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    What are you going on about, my point is that the weak neutered UK unions didn't do anything, at least the French unions stick up for their workers.

    what could they have done?

    If a company wants to move manufacturing abroad there's nothing a union can do about it
    Faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    IronWolf wrote: »
    what could they have done?

    If a company wants to move manufacturing abroad there's nothing a union can do about it

    Possibly negotiate more favourable terms for the employer?
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    IronWolf wrote: »
    what could they have done?

    If a company wants to move manufacturing abroad there's nothing a union can do about it

    As I said I would be interested to see a comparison of the number of French jobs outsourced and British. Never mind we have plenty of burger flipper jobs.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • IronWolf
    IronWolf Posts: 6,445 Forumite
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    ILW wrote: »
    Possibly negotiate more favourable terms for the employer?

    I'll believe it when I see it :D
    Faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    What is the current unemployment rate in France?
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    IronWolf wrote: »
    I'll believe it when I see it :D
    They would rather see the jobs disappear than lose face in most cases.
  • IronWolf
    IronWolf Posts: 6,445 Forumite
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    As I said I would be interested to see a comparison of the number of French jobs outsourced and British. Never mind we have plenty of burger flipper jobs.

    The french working class are mainly farmers, subsidised by the EU might I add, but food is different to manufacturing.
    Faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
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