Rear fog lights...

DCFC79

harveybobbles wrote: »

Why do people insist on driving with their rear fogs on even when the fog has shifted?

Cars hould be fitted with a REALLY big warning light on the dash board! Or the drivers seat should vibrate!

because people are too stupid and shouldnt be allowed on the roads if they dont realise they're fog lights are on,

but there are cars where teh lights come on automatically

ajuk

I'm more likely to use front than back, front fogs help me see the lines in heavy rain.

What about people who sit at junctions at night with their foot on the break pedal?

jase1

> What about people who sit at junctions at night with their foot on the break pedal?

Yeah this is something that seems to enrage a lot of people. It doesn't seem to annoy me to be honest but I can see why it would irritate. It's just another example of the woolly-minded, unthinking driver.

The daftest part of it is that a lot of automatic owners try to justify for their cars, but don't seem to realise that they're slowly shafting their gearboxes by not simply taking the car out of drive.

Going back to the OP, one thing I don't understand is people with fogs on when it hasn't been foggy for days. Every car I have ever owned is set up such that when you switch the lights off, the fog switch also releases, whether that be electronically or mechanically achieved.

So how come it happens? Are there badly-designed cars that don't have this feature, or are people deliberately/unwittingly switching them on themselves? I can take the odd case of bad design where a switch can be knocked by a knee, but this surely only affects one or two models at most.

real1314

Viper_7 wrote: »

There is more to think about that the car in front....

What about the unlit pedestrian? What about the unlit obstruction?

you're being an !!!! and you know it.

end of.

What about the unlit pair in the dark on the unlit road?

Do you switch off the lights to check if you can't see them? How does this differ from fog?

Simple fact is that fog lights extend the visibility of vehicles. If a vehicle 200 yds in front in fog is just about visible with standard lights, with fog lights it's more visible. Hence a higher speed can be maintained within a reasonable level of safety.

30 mph on a motorway at the first sign of fog; an accident waiting to cause the deaths of dozens. :cool:

vikingaero

jase1 wrote: »

> What about people who sit at junctions at night with their foot on the break pedal?

Yeah this is something that seems to enrage a lot of people. It doesn't seem to annoy me to be honest but I can see why it would irritate. It's just another example of the woolly-minded, unthinking driver.

The daftest part of it is that a lot of automatic owners try to justify for their cars, but don't seem to realise that they're slowly shafting their gearboxes by not simply taking the car out of drive.

I drive two automatic cars (and a manual one) and in Mrs V's auto I push the selector to neutral and use the handbrake if the stop is longer than 30 seconds. But you are making the presumption that on strange roads I may not know the length of a traffic light cycle and have my foot on the brake longer than necessary.

In my automatic company car, it has a 3 year warranty and I couldn't give a hoot about it after 3 years.

jase1

I did say "a lot of". Like I say it bothers me not, I just find the "justification" amusing. It doesn't seem to me to be any harder to put an auto in neutral than it is to take a manual out of gear and put the handbrake on. Easier in fact.

It's the standard reply: "he'll be an automatic driver". And?

Lum

jase1 wrote: »

> What about people who sit at junctions at night with their foot on the break pedal?

Yeah this is something that seems to enrage a lot of people. It doesn't seem to annoy me to be honest but I can see why it would irritate. It's just another example of the woolly-minded, unthinking driver.

I'm finding this increasingly annoying as brake lights get brighter and cars switch to LEDs (especially the strobed type). Don't mind it so much on older cars.

So how come it happens? Are there badly-designed cars that don't have this feature, or are people deliberately/unwittingly switching them on themselves? I can take the odd case of bad design where a switch can be knocked by a knee, but this surely only affects one or two models at most.

Pretty sure my old Mk4 Ford Escort remembered the fog light setting between sessions. Also, most 80s and 90s Japanese cars the foglight is literally an afterthought (they don't have rear foglights in Japan) and often implemented with just a cheap switch rather than an electronic toggle. Grey imports tend to use a cheap switch fitted by the first owner too.

The most basic way to implement a rear foglight is to take a power feed from the sidelights, run it through a switch, then take it to the back of the car. Things like relays and fuses are usually a good idea too, but don't affect the operation for the purposes of this post. If the switch is left on, then the foglights will come on with the sidelights, so the owner will probably never notice.

Flyboy152

harveybobbles wrote: »

Why do people insist on driving with their rear fogs on even when the fog has shifted?

Cars hould be fitted with a REALLY big warning light on the dash board! Or the drivers seat should vibrate!

Or they should should just blooming well pay attention like they are supposed to do.

Flyboy152

iolanthe07 wrote: »

It could be accidental. I switched mine on with my knee when I got in the car and never noticed until people behind kept flashing.

Then you should have been more attention to your car's warning lights, that is what they are for.

Flyboy152

iolanthe07 wrote: »

and you drove on with the warning light glowing in your face?

No - the warning light was glowing at my knee - otherwise I would have seen it....duh!

Why didn't you pay attention to the one on your dashboard?