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Rear fog lights...
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That's the point I was getting at when talking bout use of fronts vs use of rears.
That said, my car the fogs are like floodlights, covering a greater area than even full beams, but they're yellow which for some reason cuts through the fog/mist/snow really well. In that sort of situation I end up driving around with just front fogs and sidelights, though I'm sure someone will think I'm a W. Anchor for doing that.
(Yes I do turn them off if someone is coming, just like full beam)
side lights and fog lights? most people do that where i live to "look cool." most of which are in picasso's or scenics or other cars that are not really that cool...0 -
paddedjohn wrote: »Any car made after April 2011 (IT MAY BE MARCH) has to have lights fitted that automatically turn on with the ignition, even during the brightest summers day.
Please tell me you're joking? those daytime runnin lights that audi have annoy me more than fog lights... whats the point of them? i can see your up my !!!! enough already without you having a row lights lighting up a glorious sunny day...0 -
Do you drive an S13 200SX by any chance? The switch on those is murder for that and the warning light ends up hidden behind the steering wheel and/or your knee.
On my car the warning light is on the switch itself, and the switch is so low down and far back it's better described as a switch under the dash. At least the switch is very difficult to reach though.
I wish! No, it was a Hyundai i10 that I had borrowed. Nice little car, though.I used to think that good grammar is important, but now I know that good wine is importanter.0 -
What's this all about then?
People don't leave rear fogs on deliberately, they're just the same folk who drive about in the dark with no lights on and drive 45 mph EVERYWHERE.... They have tunnel vision that is literraly a small area of the windscreen, they never look at the dash, they are incompetent and CANNOT be saved.
End of...“I may not agree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to make an a** of yourself.”
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I hate that 2 position foglight switch that German cars use.
Rears should be used when visibility is down to 100 yards, according to the highway code. Fronts should be used when visibility is not much beyond the edge of your bonnet.
That switch forces you to turn the fronts on first.
If I was designing a car dashboard, I'd have them independently switched for exactly this reason. My Fiesta is front then rear. IIRC, my Mondeo was rear then front.
And have you ever driven in fog, that was so thick that even foglights were no use, and the only way to stay on the road was to keep the offside tyres on the cats' eyes? Thank you, Percy.The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in my life.
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side lights and fog lights? most people do that where i live to "look cool." most of which are in picasso's or scenics or other cars that are not really that cool...
Well chances are you'd never actually see me doing it because if a car is coming the other way then the fogs go off.
Usually I can see the other car way before it gets around the corner because it's illuminating the fog above the hedges with it's full beams.Stephen_Leak wrote: »If I was designing a car dashboard, I'd have them independently switched for exactly this reason. My Fiesta is front then rear. IIRC, my Mondeo was rear then front.
My 59 Mondeo has them independently switched. Rear then front is an acceptable alternative because even the 24/7 front foglight brigade mostly thing that driving around with the rears on makes you look a bit of a tit.And have you ever driven in fog, that was so thick that even foglights were no use, and the only way to stay on the road was to keep the offside tyres on the cats' eyes? Thank you, Percy.
Not quite, but have been pretty close to that once on the A701 Moffat->Edinburgh. Had to stick my head out the side to look for the white lines.
In the end I bottled it and stopped in a layby for an hour to let it clear up a little. It seemed safer than proceeding.0 -
Some car's have rubish warning lights. The best ones are on the dashboard with all the other lamp warnings such as main beam etc. Others are on the buttons themselves, which aren't always obvious to see (my car is like this, and the switch is below the stereo!).... and you drove on with the warning light glowing in your face?:D
I have been in debate with a colleague over this for some time. He insists on calling them "high intensity rear lights" as apparently you should only use them in heavy rain in the Motorway. I fully appreciate that they can dazzle other road users, but if visibility is down to less than 100-metres, other road users shouldn't be so close as to be dazzled by them in the first place!
Our discussion came about when I had mine on and he drove up behind me flashing his headlights. So, as any motorist would do...I kept them on. Anyway, he later told me he was doing it because he could see me clearly. My argument still stands in that I certainly couldn't see 100-metres ahead...More like 20-metres at a push! So for hin to be able to see me "clearly" he'd have to have been on my bumper! I did inform him that he wasn't the only car on the road, although late at night, and that if he was so close to me anyway, why not overtake me? For the record, I would have turned them off as he drove past me so as not to dazzle him!
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Not quite, but have been pretty close to that once on the A701 Moffat->Edinburgh. Had to stick my head out the side to look for the white lines.
In the end I bottled it and stopped in a layby for an hour to let it clear up a little. It seemed safer than proceeding.
Probably a wise decision if this story can be believed...Two German motorists had an all-too-literal head-on collision in heavy fog near the small town of Guetersloh. Each was guiding his car at a snail's pace from opposite directions but both near the middle of the road. At the moment of impact, their heads were both out of the windows where they smacked together. Both men were hospitalized with severe head injuries.
Their cars weren't scratched.
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I think it's a matter of being wise when having fogs on in foggy or misty conditions. I drove to Ely in Cambridgeshire in November last year on a Friday night, and I would say it was foggy then! i dont have front fogs so just lowered my headlights to the lowest angle, and had rear fogs on while driving the A14 and A10, but when someone was approaching behind or if someone was doing the same speed behind me I would switch it off.
I think it's about being intelligent in your driving, and courteous of other's driving experiences around you. unfortunately i think there are many who think driving is just about their own experience, not realising we're all just trying to reach a destination, which is why we have middle lane hoggers, people with the wrong lights on, and even uninsured drivers...0 -
paddedjohn wrote: »Any car made after April 2011 (IT MAY BE MARCH) has to have lights fitted that automatically turn on with the ignition, even during the brightest summers day.
Something Volvo have done for Decades...and everyone laughed...
Lights in summer make a whole lot of sense as vehicles tend to turn invisible against it when the sun is low... hence Day time running lights.0
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