9 wks old pup, wee and poo on paper in day, mess in cage/crate at night

longwalks1

our 9 week old cav pup, picked her up thursday evening, we managed to get her to go to the toilet on newspaper we put just outside her bed (which we keep inside a cage/crate with door open all day and close at night), but at night as soon as we turn downstairs light off, she whines for ages the nwhen we come down in the morning she's poo'd in the cage, and walked it all through her bed and over her toys

Any suggestions please? We cant take her outsside til Friday as she olny had her 2nd jabs 2 days ago, so will take her out every half hour from friday, but hows best to deal with toilet probs at night?

Thanks in advance

vroombroom

aw shes only a baby, she's been taken away from her siblings and her mum so give her a chance:(

Do what I did with my dog when he was a put - I wrapped a small ticking clock in a tshirt that I had worn to comfort him in his crate. The clock was recommended by the rescue he came from, apparently it reminds them of their mum? It worked anyway from the 3rd night I had him and he was quiet.

In regards to toilet training - when she does it inside/her crate etc don't tell her off, she is a baby and doesnt know any better. Instead after every single meal take her straight out into the garden and praise her like its the best thing it the world and give her a treat. But take her outside every 30mins as well.

My boy was 11 weeks when I got him and I did this routine for a few weeks, but building up the 30mins to an hour, an hour to two hours etc so he could hold his bladder a bit longer now.

He's 7 now x

sarabe

You can take her outside into your garden.

As I said in your other thread encouraging puppies to pee and poo on paper in the house makes it very confusing for them when you later on decide that you don't want her to pee and poo in the house.

There is no way on this earth that a nine week old puppy can go through the night without needing the toilet.

I always have my pup sleep in the bedroom, in their crate beside my bed and when they wake needing the toilet I take them outside and straight back to bed again.

It will take you a long time to get your dog clean at night if you just leave her on her own overnight.

You are also most likely to cause future seperation problems.

Being alone is something that has to be taught gradually.

twinklie

My baby is 9 months old and a large breed and she STILL can't quite make a full night. She does 6 to 6 and a half hours comfortably...but any longer is risking it. I'm fortunate in that she tries to kick the door down now (not literally) to let me know so I will let her out.

When she was at 9 weeks though it was bed at about 11pm up at 1am and out, up again about 4 or 5am and then again at 6.30 when I needed to get ready for work. I was just impressed with how long she was lasting then to be honest.

We also taught her to pee on the wee wee command and poo on the get busy command. She's really good with it now...unless we let her down.

ali-t

britishboy wrote: »

she whines for ages the nwhen we come down in the morning she's poo'd in the cage, and walked it all through her bed and over her toys

Same advice as others have given, she's a baby and can't hold it in.

Be grateful she is only walking through it. When my rott was a pup he used to dance in it and roll in it which made for a very unpleasant wake up call in the morning He also wasn't very good at letting me know he wanted out through the night.

Its part of puppyhood and TBH if people tell you they have toilet trained their pups in a matter of days I would struggle to believe them. for those who don't have accidents inside, it is due to the dilligence of the owners who spot the signs and take action immediately. No pup can hold it in all night.

Kinski

I'm with the others as well, it can take ages to train a pup, I made sure that the crate I had for mine was large enough that the pee and poo area was well away from the sleeping area so they could keep away from it once they'd done.

ali-t wrote: »

Be grateful she is only walking through it. When my rott was a pup he used to dance in it and roll in it which made for a very unpleasant wake up call in the morning .

Arran used to eat his , once he was trained it stopped but it wasn't nice at the time.

Tropez

It is hardly an exact science but with puppies, their age in months plus one hour is usually how long they can hold it for at a push. At that age, the pup should be going out to wee at least every 2-3 hours and even though she has only just had her jabs she is perfectly fine to go out into your own garden. It is only places where other dogs have likely to have been that she cannot visit yet.

If she's pooing in her cage and it's getting dragged everywhere she is probably trying to get rid of it somehow. Puppies learn from their mothers not to foul where they sleep, so the chances are she's trying to bury it, which obviously in a crate is an impossible task but she will try anyway.

Also, you should ensure that you're leaving a good few hours between her last feed and bed time because puppies generally don't hold on to poo for very long so there's every chance you could make her last poo of the evening the only poo she will need until the next day.

The whining will stop in time. Puppies are used to whining and have their mother coming over to see what's wrong. With a new puppy in your home, she will be whining expecting someone to come to her, particularly if you're leaving her alone at night as being a pack animal, and being used to sleeping with her littermates and mother, she will be uneasy being left alone. If you don't want her in your bedroom, then somewhere close by where she can hear you might be suitable enough - but that depends on the puppy.

Tropez

Kinski wrote: »

Arran used to eat his , once he was trained it stopped but it wasn't nice at the time.

Quite a few puppies do that. It is because their mother cleans up after them by eating their poo and so they see their mum doing it and think "so that's what I'm supposed to do with this!" and then do it themselves!

Sagz_2

twinklie wrote: »

We also taught her to pee on the wee wee command and poo on the get busy command. She's really good with it now...unless we let her down.

ali-t wrote: »

Its part of puppyhood and TBH if people tell you they have toilet trained their pups in a matter of days I would struggle to believe them. for those who don't have accidents inside, it is due to the dilligence of the owners who spot the signs and take action immediately. No pup can hold it in all night.

:T

I really feel this is the key to housetraining - the more time an owner devotes to the pups education then the quicker the pup learns and the more reliable the results are.

I should know, it's taken me almost a year to housetrain my pup! I work away for some of the week and my OH is not very doggie minded and all my training (of the pup!) gets undone whilst I'm away. Fingers crossed we seem to have cracked the problem as I've been home since mid December.

Loopy_Girl

Between the 2 threads it seems as if the OP is getting hacked off with the peeing and pooping already....and no puppy should be sh!tting in their crate if they are being taken out often enough - and I suspect the lights go out and the puppy is left locked in her crate, in the dark and cold, until morning...and the OP wonder's why she is smelling of poo (which will be distressing her out no end)

Poor wee thing...I really feel for her (the puppy, not the OP)

Loopy_Girl

Tropez wrote: »

Quite a few puppies do that. It is because their mother cleans up after them by eating their poo and so they see their mum doing it and think "so that's what I'm supposed to do with this!" and then do it themselves!

Aww bless....dunno why, but that made me smile!!