Cylists without lights - disproportionately annoys me!!

marleyboy

Harry_Flashman wrote: »

But not everybody pays to use them - that's the point being made.

Common sense would seem to dictate that those who pay for a service should be entitled to rather better conditions thatn those who simply get it for free by default.

Fortunately for Cyclists, this is not the case, your just going to have to accept that as being a fact. :D

rev_henry

Blobby8 wrote: »

Dont think for one second that just because you have read some pro cycling tat that anyone else has, you as a cyclist are the most vulnerable person on the road, it may not be fair or right but it is a fact. Cyclists do not pay road tax, and in the main are a set of ignoramuses, who most other road users hate with a passion, second only to horse riders of course.I for one am sick of 40 something lycra clad !!!!!! in a group of twenty blocking the road riding three abreast.

Your ignorance shows if you think cyclecraft is pro cycling tat. What some guy posted on a cycling forum yes, but cyclecraft is the cyclists bible.

rev_henry

Harry_Flashman wrote: »

Hmm, I'm inclined to agree with Blobby, that sort of behaviour will just have you scraped along the side of my truck!

No amount of signalling will make it safe if a motor is overtaking you.

You shouldn't be overtaking me in a truck on the inside of a traffic island! That's stupid! I'm obviously not going to risk my life stopping someone if they're determined to overtake stupidly, they'll just get a blast on my airzound after, but if I can stop it safely beforehand...

Blobby8_2

rev_henry wrote: »

Your ignorance shows if you think cyclecraft is pro cycling tat. What some guy posted on a cycling forum yes, but cyclecraft is the cyclists bible.

I should buy a cyclists bible to avoid being thought ignorant ? Nope I'll put another tankful in the Honda thanks very much, thereby paying for roads you are allowed to cycle on FOC .

Harry_Flashman

marleyboy wrote: »

Fortunately for Cyclists, this is not the case, your just going to have to accept that as being a fact. :D

Maybe so - but cyclists certainly don't (and won't) get the same consideration from me as paying road users do.

Harry_Flashman

rev_henry wrote: »

Your ignorance shows if you think cyclecraft is pro cycling tat. What some guy posted on a cycling forum yes, but cyclecraft is the cyclists bible.

So why would that matter to a non-cyclist?

Harry_Flashman

rev_henry wrote: »

You shouldn't be overtaking me in a truck on the inside of a traffic island! That's stupid! I'm obviously not going to risk my life stopping someone if they're determined to overtake stupidly, they'll just get a blast on my airzound after, but if I can stop it safely beforehand...

Why not? It's very rare that the road narrows to such an extent that there isn't room (assuming the cyclist isn't trying to get in the middle of the road).

Would I even hear (much less care about) your 'airzound'?

rev_henry

Harry_Flashman wrote: »

So why would that matter to a non-cyclist?

It wouldn't, but its not pro cycling tat.

Harry_Flashman wrote: »

Why not? It's very rare that the road narrows to such an extent that there isn't room (assuming the cyclist isn't trying to get in the middle of the road).

No it isn't, when there's a traffic island, and you're meant to give the cyclist at least 3 feet.

Would I even hear (much less care about) your 'airzound'?

Its probably louder than your truck horn.

esuhl

Harry_Flashman wrote: »

Doesn't get us away from the fact that motorists pay to use the road where cyclists don't.

As I said before, motorists do not pay anything more than cyclists to use the road. You choose to pay extra so you can drive a vehicle that damages the environment by polluting it with noxious gasses.

The fact that you are paying for this privilege shows that your antisocial actions are worthy of discouragement.

Cyclists do not require large trunk roads and motorways. It is at the behest of motorists that large parts of our beautiful landscape are desecrated forever.

Cyclists improve their health by cycling, reducing their burden on the NHS. Drivers reduce everyone's health by causing pollution. As I also mentioned previously, drivers are likely to cause more fatal collisions than cyclists too.

If you're happy to pay more to bulldoze our green spaces, spurt out polluting gasses, and increase the liklihood of killing someone in an accident then, quite frankly, you're not paying enough.

Blobby8_2

esuhl wrote: »

As I said before, motorists do not pay anything more than cyclists to use the road. You choose to pay extra so you can drive a vehicle that damages the environment by polluting it with noxious gasses.

The fact that you are paying for this privilege shows that your antisocial actions are worthy of discouragement.

Cyclists do not require large trunk roads and motorways. It is at the behest of motorists that large parts of our beautiful landscape are desecrated forever.

Cyclists improve their health by cycling, reducing their burden on the NHS. Drivers reduce everyone's health by causing pollution. As I also mentioned previously, drivers are likely to cause more fatal collisions than cyclists too.

If you're happy to pay more to bulldoze our green spaces, spurt out polluting gasses, and increase the liklihood of killing someone in an accident then, quite frankly, you're not paying enough.

So how do you get your food, your bike, your clothes, you want to live in a cave or something ?