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Cylists without lights - disproportionately annoys me!!
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Look up primary road position. Basically involves using a full cars width of the road like a motorbike, so pulling out assertively (but safely) if someone looks like they're going to overtake stupidly.0
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Harry_Flashman wrote: »Sounds a little 'risky' to pull out when you're about to be overtaken?
Contrary to popular belief amongst non cyclists primary road position is much safer and is explained in cyclecraft, which is basically a cyclist's highway code.0 -
If someone's about to overtake you when there's a traffic island coming up thus not enough room. I don't mean just swerving out; signalling and then doing so safely. Ideally you should be already riding out into the road if such a hazard is coming up.
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Hmm, I'm inclined to agree with Blobby, that sort of behaviour will just have you scraped along the side of my truck!
No amount of signalling will make it safe if a motor is overtaking you.0 -
If someone's about to overtake you when there's a traffic island coming up thus not enough room. I don't mean just swerving out; signalling and then doing so safely. Ideally you should be already riding out into the road if such a hazard is coming up.
Contrary to popular belief amongst non cyclists primary road position is much safer and is explained in cyclecraft, which is basically a cyclist's highway code.0 -
Dont think for one second that just because you have read some pro cycling tat that anyone else has, you as a cyclist are the most vulnerable person on the road, it may not be fair or right but it is a fact. Cyclists do not pay road tax, and in the main are a set of ignoramuses, who most other road users hate with a passion, second only to horse riders of course.I for one am sick of 40 something lycra clad !!!!!! in a group of twenty blocking the road riding three abreast.
'Road tax' in the UK ceased in 1936 when the road fund licence ceased to be hypothecated for roads use. I think you mean Vehicle Excise Duty? All taxpayers pay for the road network and its external costs, whether they drive a motor vehicle or not.
If you can't share the road, you shouldn't be on it.0 -
Mids_Costcutter wrote: »'Road tax' in the UK ceased in 1936 when the road fund licence ceased to be hypothecated for roads use. I think you mean Vehicle Excise Duty? All taxpayers pay for the road network and its external costs, whether they drive a motor vehicle or not.
If you can't share the road, you shouldn't be on it.
Yes - thank you. We all know that Road Tax doesn't get used to pay for roads. However, we have to pay Road Tax to use a motor on the road - that's the point being made.
Cyclists could be regarded as !!!!!!!!!!s on the roads.0 -
Harry_Flashman wrote: »Yes - thank you. We all know that Road Tax doesn't get used to pay for roads. However, we have to pay Road Tax to use a motor on the road - that's the point being made.
Cyclists could be regarded as !!!!!!!!!!s on the roads.
Why do you call it 'road tax' and not VED then?
I think the main point that a lot of contributors to this thread have been trying to make is that a little understanding and respect for other road users would go a long way. Of course that includes cyclists using lights when it starts to get dark.0 -
Mids_Costcutter wrote: »Why do you call it 'road tax' and not VED then?
Merely what I'm accustomed to calling it - just 'cos the Government changes the name doesn't mean anything else changes.
It is, after all, a 'tax' to use the 'road'.0 -
Mids_Costcutter wrote: »'Road tax' in the UK ceased in 1936 when the road fund licence ceased to be hypothecated for roads use. I think you mean Vehicle Excise Duty? All taxpayers pay for the road network and its external costs, whether they drive a motor vehicle or not.
If you can't share the road, you shouldn't be on it.
Hence, all taxpayers do not pay for the road network.
Personally I dont want to share the road with anyone, horses should be in fields or on bridleways, and cylists should realize they are using a facility paid for by someone else and out of respect ride with deference to the people who foot the bill.0 -
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