Cylists without lights - disproportionately annoys me!!

Harry_Flashman

Pound wrote: »

So you must think that low emission cars that fall into the £0 bracket have less entitlement than everyone else then?

No - like disabled drivers, etc. There is a reason they are exempt (I think environmental concerns are tosh - but that's not relevant here).

Pound

Harry_Flashman wrote: »

No - like disabled drivers, etc. There is a reason they are exempt (I think environmental concerns are tosh - but that's not relevant here).

They're exempt for the reason of low emissions.

Bicycles don't act road tax for the same reason, amongst others.

Harry_Flashman

I (almost) made it clear that I don't agree with the reasons.

And bikes weren't being taxed long before this 'global warming' foolishness was invented.

Blobby8_2

Mids_Costcutter wrote: »

Maybe you shouldn't be on the road at all, if you're not prepared to share it?

I said I didnt want to share, not that I wasnt prepared to, otherwise there would be no-one to cut up or undertake.

Pound

Harry_Flashman wrote: »

And bikes weren't being taxed long before this 'global warming' foolishness was invented.

Well, if you want some more reasons that gives cyclists entitlement:

• Health benefits (less burden on the health service).
• Less impact on natural resources.
• Almost zero (or positive) impact on road maintenance costs.
• Almost zero (or positive) impact on congestion.
• Road safety benefits.

Harry_Flashman

Pound wrote: »

• Almost zero (or positive) impact on road maintenance costs.
• Road safety benefits.

I can see how you might arrive at most of that - but these two?

Positive impact on maintenance costs? - Surely establishing cycle lanes comes from the maintenance budget?
Road safety benefits? - How? Dented motors from cyclists bouncing off them?

Mids_Costcutter

Blobby8 wrote: »

I said I didnt want to share, not that I wasnt prepared to, otherwise there would be no-one to cut up or undertake.

I think that in the case of your attitude and likely behaviour on the road, it amounts to the same thing. Or perhaps this is all just a game to you and Mr. Flashman?

Harry_Flashman

A game? Perish the thought old boy

That would show a complete lack of regard for the safety of our freeloading fellow road users :rotfl:

davidlizard

Here we go again ...

With apologies if this has already been mentioned - Cyclists, pedestrians, horse riders, mobility scooter riders and owners of pre 1975 vehicles DO contribute towards the upkeep of the roads - most roads in the UK are maintained and therefore funded by the highways department of the local council, which is funded largely by council tax, which is paid by just about everyone.

Some parts of the road network (motorways and trunk roads for example?), and top-ups to council budgets are paid for by the government, and therefore this comes from the various taxes we all pay (income tax, VAT, etc etc).

Harry_Flashman

davidlizard wrote: »

Here we go again ...

With apologies if this has already been mentioned - Cyclists, pedestrians, horse riders, mobility scooter riders and owners of pre 1975 vehicles DO contribute towards the upkeep of the roads - most roads in the UK are maintained and therefore funded by the highways department of the local council, which is funded largely by council tax, which is paid by just about everyone.

Some parts of the road network (motorways and trunk roads for example?), and top-ups to council budgets are paid for by the government, and therefore this comes from the various taxes we all pay (income tax, VAT, etc etc).

Indeed here we go again. They don't pay specifically to use the road like a motorist does.

I don't dispute that it all goes into a pot and the roads (and many other things) are paid out of it.