"Your life is an occasion. Rise to it"

Karmacat

Morning! Just lost a post, rats .... pressed the back button by mistake. The gist is, I appreciate the caution, I do - but if I were any more cautious, I'd be comatose the issue is sticking with the plan, not the craziness of the plan.

And I just mentioned to my partner on Tuesday the idea of renting out the house while I buy a little inland boat and potter round the UK on the rivers and canals which is quite real now :j Tho I'm with you, Gill, on liking the chance to be a millionaire to decide whether its good enough for me

Rather than striving for the unattainable & achieving nothing other than panic & misery, I've decided to tailor my life requirements to my means; so much simpler that way

I love this!

Karmacat

Huh, my quote in the above post didn't work very well - it was supposed to be pretty purple!

Anyway, a few minute from the off, so I'm shutting down now - tho there's a lot of news announcements today (boring stuff) that will keep me out of the market, so whether I'll find a trade is anybody's guess. Have to stop at 11, as I have paid work starting at 12.

Hope everyone has a good day.

redsquirrel80

Good luck with it today I can just see you pottering around on a boat!

I had a couple of green questions I was going to ask you about but they have escaped from my sleepy brain at the moment - tell you when I remember! :rotfl:

redsquirrel80

Ahh I remembered now - any thoughts on.... solar powered chargers (for mobile phones etc) - worth it or not? Seem to remember reading that the energy/ materials that went into making them outweighed any environmental benefits of using them. Might be good for the electricity bill though if they work.

The other one is quite silly.. basically - which is best - to use non-organic/natural shampoo which means you don't have to wash your hair everyday (thus saving water) or to use organic/natural stuff which means you have to wash it every day (thus saving putting nasty chemicals into water and on self)?

Did I mention I was a bit bored at work lately? :rotfl:

se999

redsquirrel80 wrote: »

Ahh I remembered now - any thoughts on.... solar powered chargers (for mobile phones etc) - worth it or not? Seem to remember reading that the energy/ materials that went into making them outweighed any environmental benefits of using them. Might be good for the electricity bill though if they work.

The other one is quite silly.. basically - which is best - to use non-organic/natural shampoo which means you don't have to wash your hair everyday (thus saving water) or to use organic/natural stuff which means you have to wash it every day (thus saving putting nasty chemicals into water and on self)?

Did I mention I was a bit bored at work lately? :rotfl:

OK a bit bored here too

Don't really know about the solar chargers, not looked into those things recently.

On the organic shampoo, I used a similar argument for deciding fairy washing up liquid or green or cheap alternative. For the extra quantity used etc., extra bottles used means more packaging to go to landfill or recycling, and extra miles shipping the extra products, and on cost it worked out cheaper when I stocked up on offers. So I went the reduced packaging, better product option. But on the better product for shampoo it depends on which is better for your hair in the short or long term. Ok the washing up liquid didn't include the water saving aspect that the non-organic shampoo has. Also, is the idea of organic more for the benefit of the enviroment or for you.

Karmacat

These are good!

redsquirrel80 wrote: »

Ahh I remembered now - any thoughts on.... solar powered chargers (for mobile phones etc) - worth it or not? Seem to remember reading that the energy/ materials that went into making them outweighed any environmental benefits of using them. Might be good for the electricity bill though if they work.

The answer you've given yourself is the right one, I'm sure - tho I don't have the science to back it up. The concept is called "embodied energy" - what energy is taken to make something and supply it to the end user? If your own charger stops working and you have to buy a new one, then it makes sense to buy a solar charger - but not otherwise, because the embodied energy inherent in the new charger is so high There's also the issue of how long they last - we're familiar with this now from lightbulbs, and its an important point - expensive lightbulb lasts longer. Actually, se makes this point in what she posted :beer:

The other one is quite silly.. basically - which is best - to use non-organic/natural shampoo which means you don't have to wash your hair everyday (thus saving water) or to use organic/natural stuff which means you have to wash it every day (thus saving putting nasty chemicals into water and on self)?

Did I mention I was a bit bored at work lately? :rotfl:

Actually .... I think se has answered a different question - she's answered the question I *thought* you asked :eek:

For the question you're actually asking :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:my answer is, don't wash your hair every day! You shouldn't have to wash your hair every day just because you're using organic/natural stuff

se999 wrote: »

OK a bit bored here too

Don't really know about the solar chargers, not looked into those things recently.

On the organic shampoo, I used a similar argument for deciding fairy washing up liquid or green or cheap alternative. For the extra quantity used etc., extra bottles used means more packaging to go to landfill or recycling, and extra miles shipping the extra products, and on cost it worked out cheaper when I stocked up on offers. So I went the reduced packaging, better product option. But on the better product for shampoo it depends on which is better for your hair in the short or long term. Ok the washing up liquid didn't include the water saving aspect that the non-organic shampoo has. Also, is the idea of organic more for the benefit of the enviroment or for you.

Hiya! Yep, those are really important - the cheap stuff has much more water added, so water is being carted about in plastic bottles, whereas more expensive stuff really will last longer so you need less of it so less is carted about. And it can still be cheap if you use offers.

I *think* (and I bet Z will correct me if I'm wrong) that even ordinary washing up liquid is biodegradable - I think the timescale is a little bit longer, like 30 days instead of 8 days, but I thought it was a legal requirement that it be fully biodegradable....

Karmacat

Finished work for today! And I actually have a bit of a long weekend coming up so I'm having a canter around the diaries to let my snack digest.

I was very good in the evening, btw - there's a tree that was causing me problems - the wind was blowing it onto my guttering, which could be heard *inside* the house, and its a 25' tree thats only 3 feet from the house. Not good. So I anchored my nice aluminium ladder with a few buckets of slate chips I've got stored, and hefted my way up there with a saw. Its not down yet, but the branches are.

Lots more to do today - finishing off the curtains finally.... it'd be nice to get back to that green website, and I keep meaning to, but life gets in the way. Grr!

shaun40400

hi kc

trading green boats for organic shampoo :shocked:

lost me :embarasse

Karmacat

Hi Shaun!

**scratches head**

**absentmindedly scratches Shaun's woolly back **

There were boats?

:D:D

Pippilongstocking

Great you got the tree chopped a bit I know you're being careful - but please do be!

Green website looking forward to that when you've got it done

Long weekend sounds lovely - what you got planned? x

Great explaination of 'embedded energy' btw - I loved it