Mooloo's New Home, New Year and New Start part 3

i_want_to_believe

If she has been placed in the Work Related Activity Group she has been assessed as being able to prepare for work. This would have been as a result of her work capability assessment.

I see people on a daily basis referred to this group who also have progressive illnesses but it is designed to look at what people can do not what they can't.

If Mooloo feels that this customer group is inappropriate she can appeal.

Savvy_sewing

i_want_to_believe wrote: »

If she has been placed in the Work Related Activity Group she has been assessed as being able to prepare for work. This would have been as a result of her work capability assessment.

I see people on a daily basis referred to this group who also have progressive illnesses but it is designed to look at what people can do not what they can't.

If Mooloo feels that this customer group is inappropriate she can appeal.

How do I do that? When I go to the Jobcentre? I really dont want to have the stress of it all. I have enough on my plate and its really very tireing.

Talking of tiring. I have had to cancel BF coming over. I have a terrible pain in my neck and head, probably from having my hair done today, and I am going to have to go to bed as soon as I can get DGD off to bed. I would be in bed now if I could.
Its a shame to put BF off, but I really am not going to be any company, I shall miss the fact that we would have had tomorrow together, at least the morning. Now he is not so sure he will come over, and it will depend on being well enough. Which is a dodgy one with my problems.

Thanks for helping. I really do appreciate the input. I find the whole thing rather scarey.
What alternative have I got though, and in April I will be loosing it anyway. Its just so dam scarey. Makes me ill just worrying about it all. Which doesnt really help me does it.

i_want_to_believe

My company and the providers in our supply chain take a sympathetic view to the ESA voluntary and mandatory customers who are referred to us.

We take the common sense approach and realise that although customers have been referred, they (in many circumstances), are a long way off being work ready. Take a customer who needs dialysis three times a week for example......

It may be an opportunity if you are definitely in this group, to discuss your self employment aspirations see what help they can offer and get them to work for their DWP attachment fee!

floss2

i_want_to_believe wrote: »

...You will I expect be placed onto the "Work Programme as an ESA mandatory customer". There used to be a difference between a 3 or 6 month prognosis (this means that they expect you to be fit for work in either 3 or 6 months) but both get referred at the point of the work capability assessment result now....

i_want_to_believe wrote: »

If she has been placed in the Work Related Activity Group she has been assessed as being able to prepare for work. This would have been as a result of her work capability assessment.

I see people on a daily basis referred to this group who also have progressive illnesses but it is designed to look at what people can do not what they can't.

If Mooloo feels that this customer group is inappropriate she can appeal.

i_want_to_believe wrote: »

My company .......

Aha, now I see.....

I don't like to be rude, but have you actually read ANY of Mooloo's threads? Do you have any idea of what discomfort & limited mobility she has to tolerate on a daily basis? And you consider that an ESA provider would be able to find work for her in her current state of health- I presume they would do this just to earn their placement fee?!!!

i_want_to_believe

floss2 wrote: »

Aha, now I see.....

I don't like to be rude, but have you actually read ANY of Mooloo's threads? Do you have any idea of what discomfort & limited mobility she has to tolerate on a daily basis? And you consider that an ESA provider would be able to find work for her in her current state of health- I presume they would do this just to earn their placement fee?!!![/QUOte


You see what?
I work for one of the few welfare to work charities that have the work programme contract, if you wind your neck in and read what was written, she cannot me made to apply for jobs, only engage in work related activity, that level of activity will be decided between Mooloo and her advisor.

I am aware of the issues Mooloo faces on a daily basis as I read her threads daily and have done so for a long while.

I also find that people who say " i don't like to be rude" generally are.

Savvy_sewing

floss2 wrote: »

Aha, now I see.....

I don't like to be rude, but have you actually read ANY of Mooloo's threads? Do you have any idea of what discomfort & limited mobility she has to tolerate on a daily basis? And you consider that an ESA provider would be able to find work for her in her current state of health- I presume they would do this just to earn their placement fee?!!!

i_want_to_believe wrote: »

floss2 wrote: »

Aha, now I see.....

I don't like to be rude, but have you actually read ANY of Mooloo's threads? Do you have any idea of what discomfort & limited mobility she has to tolerate on a daily basis? And you consider that an ESA provider would be able to find work for her in her current state of health- I presume they would do this just to earn their placement fee?!!![/QUOte


HELLO FLOSS. Thanks for "fighting my cause", I dont think that the poster is expecting me personnally to do anything more than go through the process of being interviewed, and go through all the motiions. It will be difficult for me in my current position to find employment that is true. But I think what the poster meant by making them work for thier money, was to see if there was any way of my making/getting help or funding to be able to actually turn my good moments int Mooloos sewing business. They would need to see if there were any grants etc, any courses that I could go on, and that sort of thing. I think anyway.


You see what?
I work for one of the few welfare to work charities that have the work programme contract, if you wind your neck in and read what was written, she cannot me made to apply for jobs, only engage in work related activity, that level of activity will be decided between Mooloo and her advisor.

I am aware of the issues Mooloo faces on a daily basis as I read her threads daily and have done so for a long while.

I also find that people who say " i don't like to be rude" generally are.

I am sorry that you think that Floss is being Rude. I do not think that she meant to be, just that before we have had a few people posting daft things, (later to be removed), over the years that have only read that day, or that page of postings at the time, and not had the full picture.
I once was asked why I posted on this site as it wasnt about Debt. I am not in Debt, but I have problems with getting the benefits that I am entitled to, but then I have relationship concerns with the finances so I am often not necessarily in the right place.

Such is. Life.

I totally understand what you are trying to say to me, and it is actually a great comfort to know that you have my best interests at heart and that you see the drive within me that still actually does want to work, but know that its rather limited.


(My main worry is that the Jobcentre where I would have to go for interviews doesnt have any public toilets and as I need to go to the loo around 3 times in an hour, I may be cuaght short which scares me. ).
I presume in Ingues etc there will be loos I could access but the jobcentre just dont allow it. Not that your able to advise me on that its just a comment that i have.

i_want_to_believe

When and if you are placed onto the Work Programme, be sure to inform the provider of what you cannot do.
There should be arrangments in place to accomodate, they would have included in their original bid fior the contract, measures that they will take when "vulnerable " customers are referred to them.

They should be able to offer an out reach service if it is difficult for you to be seen in one of their offices.

I'm not sure if the Prime Contractors in Northants have specialist partners to deal with ESA customers but I'll do some digging and see what I can find. This will at least give you some idea of who you may be seeing.

PM me if you need any other info.

Elle7

Mooloo, I really wouldn't worry.

I also have a progressive condition, but being 21, the job centre struggle to appreciate that I really can't work. My first assessment saw me put in the work programme, and told I could return to work in 6 months. I was sent to a local work placement - as soon as the woman saw me and we had a small conversation, she said there was nothing they can do and she would defer repeatedly. She did, and I never had to go back.

I was then put in the support group, for 3 months and then 6 months, and I'm now waiting to see what group I'll be put in next.

Common sense will prevail in the end, please don't worry and make yourself worse.

Savvy_sewing

Ok, thanks both for the input.
I am just having a cuppa now, with a heat pad in my back, as getting breakfast, getting madam dressed and putting the washing on, and washing up, are all the jobs I can do without a rest.
Some more fabrics I ordered have arrived in the post. I hope that after a short rest I will possibly be able to sit at the sewing machine for a little bit.
I want to start on the back log of bits and bobs, and I would dearly love to make some of my christmas presents this year.
See I am always a dreamer! Trying to be optimistic and upbeat. I shall not worry about the Jobcentre stuff etc until I have too. When the next call comes in or the letter arrives.

Ladyshopper

Mooloo - sorry to butt in, I read your thread every day but haven't ever posted. However, the going to the loo at the jobcentre struck a cord with me, as I have a frequency condition.

Have you ever been to the drs about going to the loo so often? There is a great deal they can do for that, and can often be sucessful at lessening the frequency issue depending on what is causing the problem.

I unfortunatley haven't been cured yet, and like you totally avoid places where I know there are no toilets, and the whole thing is a nightmare. I am going to a counsultant in London next month for a second opinion to see if there is anything more that can be done, but thats not to say they could'nt get your issue sorted out.

I am also in Northampton, so local to you! Trying to think of where you could go at the jobcentre - there is a college across the road, or the Jesus Centre which has a cafe, both those places I'm sure would let you use their toilets? Or round the corner where the shops are there is a KFC, I have used their toilets numerous times when shopping at Primark! They are upstairs though.

Anyway, like I said, sorry to intrude, hope you don't think I'm being rude bringing it up. I can just totally relate to it, and how impactive it can be on day to day life.