Got a 4x4? Would you like to put it to good use and confound the green 'antis'?

motorguy

Strider590 wrote: »

Problem with placing 4x4's on a pedestal....

Most of the snow has melted around here, but 4x4 drivers seem to have failed to notice this fact and are now racing just about everyone on the roads as if to say "how dare you overtake my superior vehicle!!"
Like the idiot on Saturday in the Landy Disco who ran a set of red lights doing well in excess of 60mph after objecting to being overtaken by a 2wd Vauxhall Vectra........

I said it last year and i'll say it again this year..... You've had your few days of fun, now get out of the way and move over for the proper cars, suited to the other 98% of the years weather.

Sounds like you have one serious chip on your shoulder there mate and it would be interesting to hear the other drivers interpretation of events.

Personally, i'd take a good x5 365 days a year over a 2wd vectra, and other than possibly fuel economy its the superior vehicle in every way (but then it should be at the price )

motorguy

Hintza wrote: »

Obviously the point if view of a townie!

Or someone whos never driven a modern 4x4.

Strider590

^^ not sure how anyone can justify something the size of an X5 for simply taking 1 child to school....
I mean.... Some of the modern 4x4's don't even fit in a single parking space!

Chap recently at Tesco express in his Porsche Cayenne gave me a right evil look when I parked 3 inches from his drivers door, funny thing was we were both in the exact middle/centre of our parking spaces. I failed to bite my tongue after seeing the look of contempt on his face (as if I was too inferior to occupy the same carpark) I opened my window and literally told him that if he wants to buy a stupidly big car to compensate for his small ****s, then he should expect to have parking problems!
I never park next to such large 4x4's unless I have absolutely no choice......

the182guy

I saw a BMW X3 struggling where 2WD's were managing.

expertlinguist

OK, I've got to get in here, because I am fed up with this anti 4X4 misinformation ..... downright fraudolent .....campaign.

Yummy mummies delivering their precious cargos to school in a luxury 4X4 are killing the planet.....if they did it in a super sports car (ferrari/lambo/zonda) they would probably be branded no more than show-offs....and yet would burn more fossil fuel than an extremely old and fuel inefficient series 2 Land Rover with an asthmatic 2&1/4, 4 cylinder petrol engine.

I have always had two vehicles, a motorcycle (the bigger and the faster the better) and a Land Rover(they are big but as fast....well...not really)....and never, ever owned a "proper" car....that's because if I can not ride my bike because the road conditions are so bad as to be a hazard to man and machine, I surely have no reason to be on that same road with a 2 wheel drive vehicle, be it front or rear traction.

People choose, buy and use vehicles for a variety of reasons: the first is the obvious one, they need a reliable form of transport that is available 24/7 on their front door (now watch somebody tell me that public transport provides that to the 40% of UK population who actually live 4 or more miles from their nearest bus stop/train station), the second is because what they drive is the best that they can get for the budget they have....and by best I don't mean only value for money, but the best reason is driving pleasure. That's why I drive a Land Rover and ride a motorcycle.....they are fun!

Same difference as eating to live and live to eat.....you need nourishment, so why not enjoy it as you feed yourself?

So a short message to you anti 4X4 vociferous dim-witted minority, get the information right (some "large" 4X4 use less fuel than a Mondeo), and when you do then get a life.....

As a motorcyclist I am not in your face telling you to step out of your jam jar and to get on two wheels because it's more fun, cheaper and kinder to the environment.....how then dare you come in my face and tell me to stoop down to your misery level of one driving axles too few....besides, I run my 16 year old Land Rover on recycled waste vegetable oil, thus being green on three points....

1. The biggest part of a vehicle carbon footprint is at manufacture....the longer I keep my vehicle running the greener I am.....
2. The plant that produced the oil also absorbed more CO2 than it emits whilst burning.
3. By using the waste oil as a diesel substitute I am not depleting the fossil fuel reservoirs.

Rant over, now I can go out and play in the flood waters caused by the melting of the large amount of snow that we had lately....

It was actually nice to receive a card from the 87 year young gentleman who lives in the next fen, thanking me for taking him to King's Lynn hospital for a minor procedure, in my gas-guzzling/children-eating/planet-destroying/apocalypse-causing 4X4 monster, when the hospital transport could not get to him because of the "adverse weather conditions"

Strider590

I think you misunderstand, it's not anti-4x4..... It's anti the people who think 4x4's can solve everything, particularly these stupidly big sports tyre wearing 4x4 come SUV's, which quite frankly are nothing more than a status symbol for taking little Tarquin and Harry to school in.

Me personally, i'd happily buy an old Landy Defender.... Not for the 4x4 (although with winter tyre's it'd be useful), but just so that I could park in the supermarket carpark without spending an hour in the shops worrying about what damage might have been done to my car. My own personal hammerite painted shopping tank, I like the sound of that!

expertlinguist

Strider590 wrote: »

Me personally, i'd happily buy an old Landy Defender.... Not for the 4x4 (although with winter tyre's it'd be useful), but just so that I could park in the supermarket carpark without spending an hour in the shops worrying about what damage might have been done to my car. My own personal hammerite painted shopping tank, I like the sound of that!

Hammerite don't work on aluminum....which is good, since old Land Rover don't have dents or scratches....they have battle scars:D

motorguy

Strider590 wrote: »

^^ not sure how anyone can justify something the size of an X5 for simply taking 1 child to school....
I mean.... Some of the modern 4x4's don't even fit in a single parking space!

Chap recently at Tesco express in his Porsche Cayenne gave me a right evil look when I parked 3 inches from his drivers door, funny thing was we were both in the exact middle/centre of our parking spaces. I failed to bite my tongue after seeing the look of contempt on his face (as if I was too inferior to occupy the same carpark) I opened my window and literally told him that if he wants to buy a stupidly big car to compensate for his small ****s, then he should expect to have parking problems!
I never park next to such large 4x4's unless I have absolutely no choice......

Oh dear oh dear. You really do have a chip on your shoulder dont you?

I just drove mine because i liked it, though the fact it !!!!ed people like you off was a bonus. :rotfl:

motorguy

Strider590 wrote: »

I think you misunderstand, it's not anti-4x4..... It's anti the people who think 4x4's can solve everything, particularly these stupidly big sports tyre wearing 4x4 come SUV's, which quite frankly are nothing more than a status symbol for taking little Tarquin and Harry to school in.

Me personally, i'd happily buy an old Landy Defender.... Not for the 4x4 (although with winter tyre's it'd be useful), but just so that I could park in the supermarket carpark without spending an hour in the shops worrying about what damage might have been done to my car. My own personal hammerite painted shopping tank, I like the sound of that!

You have got a SERIOUS problem mate. What does it matter what other people drive? If they want to drive it and they're happy so what? Realistically there is no need for 90% of the car variations we have on our road, but its all about choice.

Also, why bother going to tescos at all? They home deliver for £3.50 and you dont have to associate with the riff raff:D

optimus_primera

concerned43 wrote: »

My 4x4 was sitting there for 3 weeks and not used because of the snow! did not hear of anyone in my area needing 4x4 help or I would have gladly given them my landrover (heap of junk) - and I would not have wanted it back :rotfl:

if you're still giving one away ...........lol