I am now mabe not about to replace an ageing pc.

smoky_joe

closed wrote: »

The sooner you replace avg with avast, the faster it will go

http://download.avg.com/filedir/util/support/avg_remover_stf_x86_2011_1165.exe

http://download.cnet.com/Avast-Free-Antivirus/3000-2239_4-10019223.html

then move on to the rest of the instructions, the aim is to get your peak commit below 256000

this website seems to be running slow too atm

this one you posted earlier

closed

I think you may have got the wrong thing, don't run it.

could you read and reply to your personal messages asap, as the mse site appears to be crashing around our ears

closed

The correct filename is setup_av_free.exe 49.2mb, by alwil software.

If you clicked on one of the adverts instead, and downloaded something else, uninstall it from control panel, add/remove programs

smoky_joe

i now have avast antivirus active confirmed by a synthetic womans voice similar to an old 1984 austin montego oh and also google crome?
the other program was a registry scanner which hasnt downloaded it is something that has come up before,

closed

I forgot to mention, don't install chrome, but you can uninstall it

you had me worried there for a moment.

smoky_joe

yeh i must have missed the crome box as its come up too is it no good then

google chrome now uninstaled.

closed

It's ok, but comes along with more startup bloat, which we are trying to eradicate.

Enterprise-D

Please can people stop recommending to upgrade this old computer. I've worked in a computer repair shop for many years and I can guarantee you it will be much less of a headache to just get a new PC.

SD RAM is incredibly old, which just shows the age of the PC. We're not just talking about the amount of RAM here, but SD-RAM running at 133Mhz is horribly slow.

It's a bit like having an old car that you are trying to get through an MOT. The MOT will cost £1000 to get your car through, yet you could buy yourself a much nicer car for that £1000.

There comes a point when you have to cut the cord and move on.

Please - I've seen this situation so many times, the PC will fail on something else in a few months. Then something else will go. Its a never-ending cycle.

There is no point having more RAM if your CPU can only churn out 1.3Ghz through an ancient CPU architecture. Please don't mention the Atom CPU either, because that is a newer, modern processor that runs at 1.6Ghz.

gonzo127

smoky_joe wrote: »

yes expensive but not much more than a comparitive spec all in one, even to buy from the dell refurb site wouldnt be much cheeper by the time i added new moniter and delivery and thats against a new imac. - yes you are correct in some aspects however all-in-ones are all generally not recommended due to the potential problems you can have

never heard of the revo will check it out, space isnt the biggest issue but when i saw the all in one pc,s i new it would free up space from the tower for my printer to sit underneath the desk leaveing the top free off clutter. the revo is tiny and in a lot of instances can actually be attached to the back of your monitor (the mounting bracket holes on the back of the screen) yes they are not massivly powerful compared to a full blown computer, but they will have more than enough power for your stated usage and are pretty cheap, they also only have a tiny power draw, although no optical drive, as with everything something have to be compromised on to get such a small system

yes but i was under the impresion that windows could be ran on a mac as an extra os not to sure on that though. - it can be but once again you have to pay out more money to buy windows on top of the mac, and if you are buying a mac because you can put windows on it, why not just buy a windows system in the first place?

security is why i started looking at the mac in the first place as they are pretty good at avoiding most minor viruses. - mac's are more secure than windows systems that is true, but then again Linux is probably even more secure than mac (this is hard to say for sure since there is so little data around about these things however pretty much all the worlds servers will run linux which in its self speaks volumes) if this is a major concern why not think about duel booting one of the Linux distro's with a windows system so you can pick and choose which you want to use, this option will cost no more than the price of the windows system since Linux is free

as my pc has lasted 7 years without any hardware issues then i would like to think a new one would last a bit longer than the 1 year warrenty provided, so macs arent diy friendly i didnt know that so is that down to special tooling or other reasons. - you would hope so however do you want to risk it with such an expensive purchase? and the reason for them being less than DIY friendly has been covered by someone else

oh i know they last mine has been faultless and i really would have no problem telling anyone how good its been, but and its a big BUT will i be so lucky the with a new one? - as a above, you never really know, and since mac's share the same hardware as windows systems you run the same risk with both, and if you check some of the other mac threads you will see people do have things break on mac's

Hey Smokey, just added some comments in above.

also just want to say Closed will do a good job of helping you spruce things up so it will run faster, ok it will never be a speed demon but it is surprising what can be gotten out of old hardware - as i stated my old lappy running a 1.2ghz cpu and 512 ram boots up and is online in under a min (about 40 seconds) and closes down in about 5 seconds, and is more than good enough for using on the web and using the included office programs, watching movies and listening to music etc

asc99c

Enterprise-D wrote: »

There is no point having more RAM if your CPU can only churn out 1.3Ghz through an ancient CPU architecture. Please don't mention the Atom CPU either, because that is a newer, modern processor that runs at 1.6Ghz.

The Atom is designed specifically for low power consumption, not performance. A load of architectural features have been removed from atom simply because they used more power than was worthwhile for the design constraints. Though you're right that the platform is very obsolete, and at least the Atom CPU is sat on top of a modern platform.

The P3 ran Windows XP perfectly well when it was new, booting up quickly and running applications with ease. There is no fundamental reason why the same can't be true today.

The main problem is all sorts of applications that tend to now be written with the assumption you'll have a couple of gigabytes of RAM. You end up with a pile of background processes that sit there using 30MB but virtually no CPU. If you've got enough RAM, these have barely any effect on performance. The OP has by the looks of it got 256MB RAM, but about 600MB of applications using it. So every time an app needs to do something, it first has to be paged in from disc to memory.

For £5 for extra memory on ebay, I'd just do that, but then again I have a load of stuff I need running in the background - a minimum of 900MB, and I've turned off all kinds of stuff already.

The OP's computer has been running for 7 years - I really don't see any reason to believe it will go wrong in a few months. As I say I have a system of similar age running various databases 24x7 without any issues.