MSE News: Tuition fees to hit £9,000 as Government wins vote

melancholly

setmefree2 wrote: »

....and lots of students just wont go to Uni any more if Unis charge £9k so their courses will be empty. It's all in the pricing

enough foreign students come and pay more than that.... i think you're kidding yourself!

melancholly

setmefree2 wrote: »

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It would see that most institutions plan to start with £6k....

i'm going to try and say this again, as i'm not getting through - until the government comes out with more details next year, unis can't even plan things. everyone i know in the sector expects as many as possible to charge as much as possible to avoid massive job cuts. (especially since many unis have already been through redundancies already!)

feel feel to ignore me - but i think you're failing to understand the whole higher education funding crisis (which seems fair enough, as most people not in the sector don't realise how desperate it really is) and are kidding yourself because you want to believe your child will 'only' have to pay £6K.

BACKFRMTHEEDGE

melancholly wrote: »

enough foreign students come and pay more than that.... i think you're kidding yourself!

Why don't you back your POV up with some evidence?

setmefree2

melancholly wrote: »

i'm going to try and say this again, as i'm not getting through - until the government comes out with more details next year, unis can't even plan things. everyone i know in the sector expects as many as possible to charge as much as possible to avoid massive job cuts. (especially since many unis have already been through redundancies already!)

feel feel to ignore me - but i think you're failing to understand the whole higher education funding crisis (which seems fair enough, as most people not in the sector don't realise how desperate it really is) and are kidding yourself because you want to believe your child will 'only' have to pay £6K.

and you seem to be kidding yourself that all students will be charged £9k, even though the government has said this will be exceptional, maybe this is because "you" feel threatened? I have produced evidence to back up my point of view that fees will be £6k you have offered nothing but conjecture. As the previous poster said - where's the evidence?

setmefree2

melancholly wrote: »

i'm going to try and say this again, as i'm not getting through - until the government comes out with more details next year, unis can't even plan things. everyone i know in the sector expects as many as possible to charge as much as possible to avoid massive job cuts. (especially since many unis have already been through redundancies already!)

feel feel to ignore me - but i think you're failing to understand the whole higher education funding crisis (which seems fair enough, as most people not in the sector don't realise how desperate it really is) and are kidding yourself because you want to believe your child will 'only' have to pay £6K.

I don't believe that University Chancellors don't know how much they will charge...

melancholly

BACKFRMTHEEDGE wrote: »

Why don't you back your POV up with some evidence?

if you don't know the cost of uk universities for overseas students, i'm surprised. here's a few basic links to help out!

http://www.universitiesuk.ac.uk/Newsroom/Facts-and-Figures/International-student-tuition-fees/Survey-results-2009-2010/Pages/Default.aspx

http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/student/fees_student_support.php

melancholly

setmefree2 wrote: »

I don't believe that University Chancellors don't know how much they will charge...

they don't know what the government will give them yet!

read the last few points of this talk (linked to before!)
http://www.universitiesuk.ac.uk/Newsroom/Speeches/Pages/ProfessorSteveSmith'sspeechforUUKfundingdebate.aspx

setmefree2

melancholly wrote: »

if you don't know the cost of uk universities for overseas students, i'm surprised. here's a few basic links to help out!

http://www.universitiesuk.ac.uk/Newsroom/Facts-and-Figures/International-student-tuition-fees/Survey-results-2009-2010/Pages/Default.aspx

http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/student/fees_student_support.php

I think the poster meant back up your POV that fees will be £9k for most courses to home students.

gauly

setmefree2 wrote: »

....and lots of students just wont go to Uni any more if Unis charge £9k so their courses will be empty. It's all in the pricing

Quite frankly there is no point in choosing the course based on the price unless you are choosing a course where you will be almost certain to pay back the loan (eg. medicine, maybe law and economics at top universities).

I've seen two separate calculations on how much you will have to pay back - they weren't the same but they did agree that over half of students will not pay back the loan over the 30 years and this was based on fees of £6k and £7.5k.

This is the fundamental flaw in trying to get universities to compete on price: if students aren't going to be able to pay the loan back then it doesn't matter how much the course costs. The universities and students will realise this soon which will mean there will be no competion on pricing. My opinion anyway!!

setmefree2

melancholly wrote: »

they don't know what the government will give them yet!

read the last few points of this talk (linked to before!)
http://www.universitiesuk.ac.uk/Newsroom/Speeches/Pages/ProfessorSteveSmith'sspeechforUUKfundingdebate.aspx

OK so we've established they don't know anything.... so if they don't - know why so you keep saying they will charge £9k?