Nice people thread part 3- Nice as pie

SingleSue

I am feeling vindicated for all the stress I have gone through over the years with the boys....had a meeting at youngest's school today as youngest is going through a dodgy time right now and his specialist outreach teacher said that rather than concentrating on their disability and only their disabilities, my choice to almost force them into the outside world and interact with others (in other words, make them as 'normal' as possible), was the best possible thing I could have done.

Yes it was stressful taking them out of their comfort zones (all done very slowly but surely I hasten to add), yes there were many thrown toys, books, ripped bits of paper and day planners, many strops, temper tantrums, tears and sleepless nights but the boys today are so much better than anyone could have ever predicted.....and the specialist teacher said it was down to me and my never give up attitude, my refusal to accept their disability as who they will always be, a bonus which has allowed them to go to mainstream school and for middle son, from being a child classed as unteachable to one who is seen as one of their brightest students in their current year 9.

Others with children who have autism may not have agreed with my methods calling it almost cruel by forcing them into facing things they are very uncomfortable with (at times I agreed with them and almost gave up) but to be told what I have been told today by someone who is extremely experienced on a professional level in autism, has made all the hassle worthwhile.

I know they will never be completely normal and will face big challenges in the future (GCSE's for youngest, Uni for middle) but they can ask for things in a shop, we can go out for meals, we can go shopping in a supermarket, they can handle and understand money...now if only I could get the personal care side of it sorted!

So feeling very pleased with myself tonight....

LydiaJ

PasturesNew wrote: »

I've not even seen a census form, nor did I know it could be done online. I doubt I will see it. It's not my house, therefore it's the business of "the man in the house" and I'll never see sight of it at all. I bet there are thousands of people like me dotted here and there who will either be missed off, or erroneously documented. And there's nothing we can do about it as it's "not our business" as that's the "man of the house's private business".

Oh - and I'm not interested. Know those people who have no idea what you're selling, but they know they're not interested...? That's me.

If you were interested, you would be entitled to ask for an individual form, and tell your dad just to fill you in on the "household" section but not the individual pages.

SingleSue wrote: »

I am feeling vindicated for all the stress I have gone through over the years with the boys....had a meeting at youngest's school today as youngest is going through a dodgy time right now and his specialist outreach teacher said that rather than concentrating on their disability and only their disabilities, my choice to almost force them into the outside world and interact with others (in other words, make them as 'normal' as possible), was the best possible thing I could have done.

Yes it was stressful taking them out of their comfort zones (all done very slowly but surely I hasten to add), yes there were many thrown toys, books, ripped bits of paper and day planners, many strops, temper tantrums, tears and sleepless nights but the boys today are so much better than anyone could have ever predicted.....and the specialist teacher said it was down to me and my never give up attitude, my refusal to accept their disability as who they will always be, a bonus which has allowed them to go to mainstream school and for middle son, from being a child classed as unteachable to one who is seen as one of their brightest students in their current year 9.

Others with children who have autism may not have agreed with my methods calling it almost cruel by forcing them into facing things they are very uncomfortable with (at times I agreed with them and almost gave up) but to be told what I have been told today by someone who is extremely experienced on a professional level in autism, has made all the hassle worthwhile.

I know they will never be completely normal and will face big challenges in the future (GCSE's for youngest, Uni for middle) but they can ask for things in a shop, we can go out for meals, we can go shopping in a supermarket, they can handle and understand money...now if only I could get the personal care side of it sorted!

So feeling very pleased with myself tonight....

:T:T:T:T:T:T:T:T

Davesnave

PasturesNew wrote: »

I really hate all that sort of stuff. Knitted and weaved. Faff.

I have a simple, clean eye for what's right and what's not.

I've never liked faff.

You'd hate what a friend of mine does then:

http://www.carolgriffin.info/

(Think I may have posted the above before.)

Well done Sue. :T As parents with a somewhat special child, we knew too that 'protecting' her would be no good, nor would we allow her to use her specialness as an excuse where it didn't apply. It's tough, and there are many tears, but progress happens, and then it's all worthwhile. Better still when someone who really understands, recognises your achievement.

PasturesNew

Davesnave wrote: »

You'd hate what a friend of mine does then:

http://www.carolgriffin.info/

(Think I may have posted the above before.)

Spot on! I just kind of "don't get it". My requirement for things is very functional, practical, affordable - and that's all part of the "arty, farty, !!!!!! for" world

I just look at that stuff and think: who, for what/when and HOW MUCH??? And marvel at the marketing that could possibly ever find a single customer

Davesnave

PasturesNew wrote: »

Spot on! I just kind of "don't get it". My requirement for things is very functional, practical, affordable - and that's all part of the "arty, farty, !!!!!! for" world

I just look at that stuff and think: who, for what/when and HOW MUCH??? And marvel at the marketing that could possibly ever find a single customer

It all looks lovely, but instantly I think about fading in sunshine and how the hell you clean things like that.

How much? About £100 -£300, I think.:eek:

So I'm with you. She'll never sell one to me, but then I have a scruffy house wuith a messy wood burner, but her place is immaculate. The sort of place where dust wouldn't dare settle.

lostinrates

Davesnave wrote: »

I have a scruffy house wuith a messy wood burner, but her place is immaculate. The sort of place where dust wouldn't dare settle.

I think its Nicky Haslem (a man who I'm not sure I like but whose eye and budgets I envy) who says have nothing in your house that is not useful and that you do not believe to be beautiful. I can't do that: I'm not enamoured of lots of things we've been given, but they are useful ATM. Its an ambitious aim. My mother has a paper art similar to your friends work....its box framed....there is no way to clean it or keep it clean otherwise. I'd love some ''real'' art. I just cannot afford it, and especially not the stuff I like. DH and I started a joint portrait of dog dog .....basically we drew her in and painted the background green. So it looks a bit quirkily modern/unfinished. Because its just plain unfinished! The only other art we have that I like was painted by a street artist in Italy and its..odd, but really bright and happy. We have lots of prints....i.e not limited edition ones, and posters, but I just don'tlike them much. DH has lots of music ones I'd like to cheaply clip frame for his office....i.e. so he can enjoy them with out me having to look at 'em.


We have a really irregular shaped wall above our inglenook, but I don't particularly want something modern there....and can't afford something ''old''.

LydiaJ

lostinrates wrote: »

I think its Nicky Haslem (a man who I'm not sure I like but whose eye and budgets I envy) who says have nothing in your house that is not useful and that you do not believe to be beautiful. I can't do that: I'm not enamoured of lots of things we've been given, but they are useful ATM.

If Nicky Haslem says that then he's quoting. It's originally from the Victorian "arts & crafts" bloke William Morris. The quote is "Have nothing in your house that you do not know to be useful or believe to be beautiful." So you're allowed unbeautiful things if they're useful, lir, and you can have useless beautiful things, just nothing that's both useless and unattractive.

GDB2222

LydiaJ wrote: »

If Nicky Haslem says that then he's quoting. It's originally from the Victorian "arts & crafts" bloke William Morris. The quote is "Have nothing in your house that you do not know to be useful or believe to be beautiful." So you're allowed unbeautiful things if they're useful, lir, and you can have useless beautiful things, just nothing that's both useless and unattractive.

Does this apply to spotty teenagers that don't get out of bed?

misskool

Sun's out, the cold is fading so I'm braving outdoors for as long as my lungs stay in my body

Time to get the chainsaw out

lostinrates

misskool wrote: »

Sun's out, the cold is fading so I'm braving outdoors for as long as my lungs stay in my body

Time to get the chainsaw out

Hope the chainsaw wasn't for your lungs!

We're just coming in now. Quite please with today's stuff....lots of faffing, but good stuff.....a big irrigation pipe moved along with a host of snowdrops. A pot of fence paint emptied...almost finishing on run of fencing and seriously improving it (''wild thyme'' is much better than tango orange). Sweet pee teepees made, dogs walked for what felt like the first time in ages. one of the horses given a decent brush.

Yes, we should have been moving rubble or something, but today was fun.