Nice people thread part 3- Nice as pie

tomterm8

Having said that bat house seems a definite winner, with 33,600 broad searches globally, although it does seem the person who occupies the top spot at google actually knows what they are doing, the person who is on the sixth spot seems easily rank-able. hmm.

PasturesNew

mostlycheerful wrote: »

Regarding you current business and orientation you could perhaps be doing affiliate marketing using some or all of your current websites and or some other new platforms. With a few hundred pages of material about various products and services fronting for the affiliate buttons that lead to the sites who do the sales you could be doing very well. Commission Junction is a good place to start and there’s a couple of other big players worth looking at. All the big companies do affiliate marketing and some of the top sites including the click through buttons make a lot of money for relatively little effort.

That's what I've been doing, but ultimately one needs a product to promote that is owned and created by you yourself, or you're just left floating about when the businesses and business models of others changes.

I've always struggled to find " a product", something I can make... and I think I now have. So, plan in operation, kind of.

mostlycheerful wrote: »

The other things that many successful business people do are delegate work and get it done out of house. In your business if you got some work experience trainees, sometimes called by the American name interns, then you can get most or all of your work done for you. You teach them for 3 or 6 months then those that make the grade are given a job, subject to the business doing well enough to pay wages. If not then they’ve learnt lots in a real practical environment and have got something good to add to their cvs. You can also give them a bit of commission as they go along, and especially if they pull off a big job or do some particularly useful and helpful stuff.

I can't delegate. I am not a people person.... and a lot of people are !!!!!!/unreliable. I have no desire/skill to manage relationships with faceless outsourcers.

mostlycheerful wrote: »

Trainees come in all shapes and sizes so scrutinise cvs and interview them thoroughly and be choosy and pick the bright, keen, hard working ones and root out the useless numpties at an early stage. You’ve previously done supervisory management jobs before and you said you ended up watching a couple of screens and telling 50 people to get on with it and got paid the stupendous astronomical amount of £56 an hour so you know you can do this. Yes, it has downsides and compromises but so do most things in life. Once you develop this sufficiently you can pretty much retire and leave it in the capable hands of your management team to get on with it, well, that’s the ideal position, but, yes, often quite hard to achieve. But it can be done if you set out to do this.

As well as delegation, getting work done out of house can sometimes be quite powerful. For instance, fulfilment is an often successful way of doing retail and wholesale. There are a number of order fulfilment companies available and when you have all or most of your work being done out of house you can concentrate on the important issues of procurement and bringing in new lines. Dropping shipping and vending are two areas I’ve looked into a bit and, as with any system and market, once you’ve elbowed your way in there and grabbed yourself a piece of the market it mostly does itself, well, as long as you manage it and tweak it from time to time and deal with the issues arising. So it’s still lots of work, but sometimes by doing this you can utilise lots of other people’s work as well as your own.

I’ve read what you’ve said about your current living conditions and lack of space so initially this can all be done over the net and phone. However at some point you might consider renting or buying premises. But that’s not particularly necessary at the start.

If you’re interested in researching this further then I suggest you have a browse of this page :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Distribution,_retailing,_and_wholesaling

and I think you might find some interesting ideas and concepts that you could probably use and implement.

Hope this is of interest or use, or if it’s all old hat and you know all about all this already, sure, ok, all the best, mc

You do type for England don't you

PasturesNew

tomterm8 wrote: »

Having said that bat house seems a definite winner, with 33,600 broad searches globally, although it does seem the person who occupies the top spot at google actually knows what they are doing, the person who is on the sixth spot seems easily rank-able. hmm.

Give me until tomorrow, I'll be number one.

LOL.

Can't be 4rsed, but it would have made for an interesting 3 hours

tomterm8

Are we talking about the same google? I mean .com. The bat house pub in london doesn't really know what it doing, LOL, although even the US site isn't impossible to rank, it would take a little while for me.

PasturesNew

tomterm8 wrote: »

Are we talking about the same google? I mean .com. The bat house pub in london doesn't really know what it doing, LOL, although even the US site isn't impossible to rank, it would take a little while for me.

I googled on .uk as I figured you were after the home market, not worldwide domination.

wageslave

lostinrates wrote: »

what happens to unmarried gypsy women? Those for example, who are considered fast and lose? Are they provided for....if they left school so early and can't get work to support themselves?

How do they get round the requirement for home education to replace school education?

There are no unmarried tinkers unless they are a bit simple and even then someone can usually be talked into taking them on.

The real problem is the ones who do the unthinkable and leave their marriages. There is no place amongst the travelling community for a woman who has left her husband.

She is viewed as no better than a prostitute.

silvercar

wageslave wrote: »

There are no unmarried tinkers unless they are a bit simple and even then someone can usually be talked into taking them on.

The real problem is the ones who do the unthinkable and leave their marriages. There is no place amongst the travelling community for a woman who has left her husband.

She is viewed as no better than a prostitute.

But what happens to go girls who pass their sell by date?

Do no girls stay on at school? Even the youngest of siblings who have no need to help in the home?

lostinrates

wageslave wrote: »

There are no unmarried tinkers unless they are a bit simple and even then someone can usually be talked into taking them on.

The real problem is the ones who do the unthinkable and leave their marriages. There is no place amongst the travelling community for a woman who has left her husband.

She is viewed as no better than a prostitute.

Great, you're here.

Did you see the programme? They were saying the girls who brought shame on their families by being a lone with a boy/man etc were unmarriable...but this is not true? Or just so rare as to be a quandry if it arises?

misskool

lir: there's a documentary on how the brain works on bbc4, fascinating stuff. Not that you need to learn more about it

wageslave

silvercar wrote: »

But what happens to go girls who pass their sell by date?

Do no girls stay on at school? Even the youngest of siblings who have no need to help in the home?

Education is seen as unnecessary for both sexes. No one would be forced to leave school but no one is encouraged to stay.