Nice people thread part 3- Nice as pie

Really2

I don't know on this exactly (never set up a charity but have supplied to them), but there would be nothing to stop you setting up a trust fund if people are willing to contribute direct. It is a gift, I can't see you having a legal requirement for being a charity as in reality people are giving money.
So perhaps a trust fund in your daughters name with POA up until she is a set age perhaps. As long as you are clear when fund raising on what you are doing I can't see it being illegal.

But the obvious benefit of being a charity is you can claim gift aid and get VAT exemption on purchases.

So ongoing a charity status would be beneficial financially. Also as a registered charity I dare say fund raising will be easier and more successful.

PasturesNew

lemonjelly wrote: »

Is your reading of message boards and the like different to your reading of books? Do you think about the characters on here for example? Do you think about our motivations? Do you analyse posters on MB's? Genuine question, genuinely interested as I'm wondering if it is the approach to reading?

To be honest, I just read individual postings. There are very few posters who I "remember" at all, this nice thread probably contains names I "remember", but if I had to write a short paragraph on the lives of everybody on MSE, like a test, it'd have about 6 names on it and it'd be a short paragraph. e.g. you... I can't really remember you, I mean I do. You're one of the people "on my list" so to speak, but the details all get blurred. I can't remember if you're M/F, I think I get you mixed up with 2-3 others too (whose names I can't remember either). I just can't remember things about people and tie them together.

I know I like you, but that's all I remember. It's not based on anything specific though. It must just be based on familiarity and the fact you've not had a go at me (that I remember).

There are some people who I do remember, for specific reasons. It feels mean trying to list them because if I left one out they'd be upset maybe.

In fact, a lot of the time I don't even know who is writing stuff - I just read the postings, not notice who wrote it.

I could NEVER remember people's thoughts/sides on any argument, I could never remember stuff people said before and how now they've changed their mind. I simply read postings and move on.

I never ever analyse any posters on MBs. I read the words, that's all.

I think I have a short attention span

So, these people skills ..... not good at it am I.

PasturesNew

inspector_monkfish wrote: »

does anyone know much about accounting procedures and other stuff for setting up this sort of thing?
sort of things like the following:
would we have to register it as a charity?
do we not have to register it as a charity beacuse it is fundraising just for 1 person?
do we need trustees?
would be most greatful for any help or guidance

I'm guessing you already asked the Charity Board on MSE.

If you register as a charity, there are benefits to doing that, such as being able to promote as a charity and use sites like justgiving. If it's a proper charity more people'll donate as they won't think it's a scam.

inspector_monkfish

PasturesNew wrote: »

I'm guessing you already asked the Charity Board on MSE.

If you register as a charity, there are benefits to doing that, such as being able to promote as a charity and use sites like justgiving. If it's a proper charity more people'll donate as they won't think it's a scam.

no i havent, but i will do thanks

silvercar

inspector_monkfish wrote: »

hi y'all,

just want to pick your brains......

many many people have asked us if we have ever thought about fundraising just for Daisy, rather than the charity that research her illness (www.port-charity.org.uk)
so many people have offered us donations directly, but we have always said no, give it to port.
but we are starting to realise that she is going to need many many things as she grows older, that we may not be able to afford, and NHS will not cover
(i'm already looking at house extensions, just to store all her medicines and equipment)

does anyone know much about accounting procedures and other stuff for setting up this sort of thing?
sort of things like the following:
would we have to register it as a charity?
do we not have to register it as a charity beacuse it is fundraising just for 1 person?
do we need trustees?
would be most greatful for any help or guidance

we have had a search around the internet, but its a bit of a minefield and all very confusing

tks & regards
IM

Advantages of setting up a charity are also that you the charity can claim the tax back on donations, so that's a 25% gain in funds and higher rate tax payers can claim the higher rate element of tax back so they gain something like 20% back and can therefore afford more. Companies can donate to charities and it comes off their bottom line so it saves them tax - again leading to more donations.

lemonjelly

inspector_monkfish wrote: »

hi y'all,

just want to pick your brains......

many many people have asked us if we have ever thought about fundraising just for Daisy, rather than the charity that research her illness (www.port-charity.org.uk)
so many people have offered us donations directly, but we have always said no, give it to port.
but we are starting to realise that she is going to need many many things as she grows older, that we may not be able to afford, and NHS will not cover
(i'm already looking at house extensions, just to store all her medicines and equipment)

does anyone know much about accounting procedures and other stuff for setting up this sort of thing?
sort of things like the following:
would we have to register it as a charity?
do we not have to register it as a charity beacuse it is fundraising just for 1 person?
do we need trustees?
would be most greatful for any help or guidance

we have had a search around the internet, but its a bit of a minefield and all very confusing

tks & regards
IM

I can only echo what has been said by PN, silvercar, Really2 Inspector. All good suggestions.

However I suspect you won't be able to set up a charity for an individual, according to the charity commission:

http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/Start_up_a_charity/Set_up/default.aspx

A charity is a particular type of voluntary organisation - one that takes a distinctive legal form. Charities must provide benefit to the public, not to a specific individual. Their aims, purposes or objectives have to be exclusively those which the law recognises as charitable. A registered charity will usually be given a special tax status and benefit from a number of tax exemptions and reliefs. HMRC is responsible for decisions about tax status and you should contact them for information about this.

Sorry to bear bad news.:(

However the notion of a trust fund is excellent, & ensures everything would be in your daughters interests.

inspector_monkfish

thanks for all your replies

i'm sure someone has told us that you cannot register a charity just for an individual though

lemonjelly

inspector_monkfish wrote: »

thanks for all your replies

i'm sure someone has told us that you cannot register a charity just for an individual though

See my post.;) (Crossed posting methinks...)

lostinrates

PasturesNew wrote: »

Reading you lot, writing about reading books .... I think I'm just beginning to understand why I don't read books.

I wonder if it's an Aspie thing. It just occurred to me that when I read a book I read the words. I read a page. I don't analyse it, or wonder about it. I read the words. It's like a functional activity. I sit, I read words. There's nothing else. I am not explaining it very well ... but I don't think about the characters, or motivations, etc etc or analyse anything. I read the words.

I've not described that very well.... sometimes I can't write what I mean.

So, there it is, maybe I can't "enjoy a book" the same way you lot do. And when I've read things like you lot write, I think "!!!!!!, what's this got to do with anything?" It's like you actually think about the books, or the authors, or something - all alien to me. Again, I am struggling for words here.

Also, remembering details, especially after you've got to the end. I don't do that. I read the words, I forget everything in the book. I read Chocolate about 3 years ago, I remember liking it enough to get to the end. What can I remember of it? "Woman, opens a shop, something happens, there's some old lady in it too." That is ALL I remember of a book I remember reading and enjoying.

PN I read exactly the opposite way. I read very quickly but sometimes skip words in my haste...like a greedy person stuffing their face grotesquely some words drop on my chin:o:o. That means that even before I had memory problems re reading was a pleasure. I always find something new in a book. I often read with a pencil/pen in a book I know I'll keep because it slows me down. I read a book with commitment as well as speed, I hate leaving it and I become very engrossed....in a way I never am with film. which is part of why I read so quickly. I can gorge on books too, my treat at the airport is..used to be...a few new books. DH always used to be horrified that at least one was gone before we landed...short haul. I don't really like to have a sense of who the author is while I read: I feel if I do remember in a way ..if its intrusive to me, then the book has failed a little. But it is relevant in some sense to my appreciation to a book if I do know something about the writer it certainly adds to appreciation...perspective on some level...I just don't like to ''hear their voice'' while I read. I find it ..intrusive...bossy.

inspector_monkfish

lemonjelly wrote: »

I can only echo what has been said by PN, silvercar, Really2 Inspector. All good suggestions.

However I suspect you won't be able to set up a charity for an individual, according to the charity commission:

http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/Start_up_a_charity/Set_up/default.aspx



Sorry to bear bad news.:(

However the notion of a trust fund is excellent, & ensures everything would be in your daughters interests.

yup, thats what i thought :cool:
cheers