scrap wagons and the idiots who operate them

clever_username

avinabacca wrote: »

As I say.

Special thought processes.

as i say, ridiculous statements...

well done for giving no intelligent response and going for the cop out though. nicely done.

Elsewhere

Well, I wish you'd direct one or two of the scrap collectors to our area, please! We never seem to get them around here at all...

There's an old washing machine sitting in our garden right now, which my husband has been slowly disassembling and reshaping with a sledgehammer so we can fit a bit in our wheelie bin each week... A scrap collector would be a godsend!

avinabacca

clever_username wrote: »

as i say, ridiculous statements...

well done for giving no intelligent response and going for the cop out though. nicely done.

Chuckle, chuckle.

Ok then - I'll bite

Your original point's based on very little of worth, you've been unable to back it up with anything more than vague ad hominem statements about council tenants and cold-callers, you seem convinced that rambling, halting rants are going to tip the balance and help win your argument - and if all else fails, you'll just give it a bit of the playground.

What now? No need to prolong our discomfort here - you've (allegedly) reported Old Steptoe to the council, now leave it be.

Though would still be interested, of course, to hear your thoughts on people who're motivated and entrepreneurial enough to get off their backside and have a go at making something of themselves......

clever_username

avinabacca wrote: »

Ok then - I'll bite

that's all i ask...

avinabacca wrote: »

Though would still be interested, of course, to hear your thoughts on people who're motivated and entrepreneurial enough to get off their backside and have a go at making something of themselves......

then they're welcome to do so. but don't do it in falling-apart vehicles with dangerous and unstable loads that shed bits of scrap metal when they make turns or continually drive around the streets shouting through a loudspeaker.

simple really.

avinabacca

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les43

scrap men have to have a permit from the council to collect scrap and they have to pay for it!
they also get pulled when unloading at scrapyards by vosa and the dss to check their vehicles and make sure they not signing on etc
they also have to have proper scrap insurance
there are some who still do it illegaly but most are honest
they also have to pay to tip garden rubbish, rubble etc where the dodgey ones just fly tip

Wayne3765

Most of the one's around here are not quite the law abiding , tax paying pillars of the community some of the posters in this thread believe them to be.

Illegal and unregistered scrap metal traders have been the subject of a crackdown by authorities.
Gwent Police’s Risca Neighbourhood Policing Team, the Vehicle and Operator Services Agency, the Environment Agency and Caerphilly County Borough Council’s Trading Standards team carried out checks on vehicles outside local scrap metal dealers during the recent one-day operation.
Details of the vehicles and drivers were recorded and verified to ensure that the vehicles were roadworthy, and breaches of trader licensing regulations were identified and any criminal activity detected.
During the day:
Trading Standards spoke to 23 people, with 17 of those coming from within the Caerphilly County Borough Council area. These people were issued with relevant license application documents.
VOSA issued nine prohibition notices. Of these, six drivers had to immediately fix defects on their vehicles before they could be moved, while another three drivers were given notices to repair defects.
Three people were reported for not having insurance.
One vehicle was seized under Section 165 for not having insurance.
The Environment Agency issued 13 tickets to people without waste carrier licences. They have ten days to adhere and register as a waste carrier or they will be taken to court.
PC Franca Sidoli, from the Risca Neighbourhood Policing Team, said: “We stopped a large number of vehicles during the day to run checks and ensure that those carrying scrap metal were licensed to do so.
“A number of vehicle crime offences were also dealt with. We will continue to work with our partners including the Environment Agency, VOSA and the local council to clamp down on illegal or unregistered scrap metal dealers.”
Susana Fernandez, Enforcement Officer for the Environment Agency, said: “This was a very busy day, and deemed a great success from our
perspective.
“A total of 20 vehicles were stopped, all carrying mixed waste scrap metal. Thirteen of these did not have a waste carriers licence.
“This day sends a clear message out that those who transport waste illegally will not be tolerated, and will be dealt with appropriately. We will continue to work with our partners in targeting this activity on similar action days.”
Cllr Lyn Ackerman, Caerphily County Borough Council’s cabinet member for the environment said: “Operations such as this illustrate partnership working at its best. Together with our partners at various agencies we were able to pool our resources and ensure that those carrying scrap metal are fully licensed to do so and are operating fully within the law.”

There have also been reports of drain covers going missing and this too -

Gwent Police is appealing for information after 1.2km of copper cable was stolen in the Risca area.
The cable was taken from an electrical post with the theft reported to police on the morning of Wednesday August 25.
Anyone with any information about the incident is asked to call Gwent Police on 01633 838111 or Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.
A Gwent Police spokeswoman said: “We are reiterating advice to people about the dangers involved in metal theft. Not only is it a serious crime but we know lives have been lost before by people embarking on this type of criminality.
“Anyone with information about anyone involved in such activity is asked to call the police.”

pulliptears

Have to say, the ones around my way are a bit of a pain in the bum as they appear up to 10pm at night and from 8am on a weekend, one blasts out some sort of bugle and another plays the theme from Steptoe at full blast. They come round easily twice a day seven days a week which can be a little irritating. I imagine if you worked nights you would get rather angry.

Col7777

I was clearing my back garden a few years ago and I had an old aluminium shed, I got the doors off and was struggling to dismantle the rest of it.
Any way I saw one of these scrap vehicles going past and I flagged him down, I gave him the doors and said when I dismantle the rest of the shed he could have that too, the next thing him and his mate had it down and in pieces loaded on to their truck.
I was very pleased, they took it for nothing and saved me a few hours work plus me having to take it to the tip.
I have also given them an old washing machine that packed up and was beyond repair, again saved me a lot of trouble, and cost me nothing to have it moved.

I would also add these men were very well mannered too and seemed nice enough blokes.

Freddie_Snowbits

clever_username wrote: »

the skills?

Spill checker, sshud ave bin SKOOLS