boiler problem...landlord or tenant?

blunther

Do you even have a GSC? I hope tne tenants get on to the council about you.

BitterAndTwisted

OP, have you seen the weather forecast for this weekend? If your tenants haven't seen snow yet I expect they will by Friday night. I hope for your sake that the tenants have an alternative means of heating the property and that the pipes don't freeze or the cost of repairing the boiler will be the least of your worries.

As has been said many times on this thread, the boiler repair is your responsibility and I think it's wicked of you not to have arranged the repair by now. Just because you don't like an answer does not mean that it is incorrect.

Accountant_Kerry

Thank god I don't rent a house from the OP. I would be freezing to death obviously.

zzzLazyDaisy

Posted by OP in May 2009

"I am 28 and wish to start saving regularly into a SIPP. I feel a SIPP would give me more control and a wider choice of investment for my pension. "

I know that it is not impossible for a 29/30 yr old to be a landlord, but given the credit crunch and the difficulties obtaining mortgages, I'd say it is probably unlikely (especially as the OP seems to indicate that these tenants have been in situ for at least a year).

I think this post is a wind-up. But if not, we have one very immature and short-sighted landlord here, who needs to wise up quickly!

sonastin

IF you have given the tenants clear instructions on how to operate the boiler and
IF those instructions have been deliberately disregarded in a way that breaks the boiler and
IF you can prove that they should have known that ignoring the instructions would result in the boiler breaking and
IF you can demonstrate that if they had followed the instructions they would have been able to keep the house adequately heated (to their needs, not to the temperature you would choose)

then you might have reason to compare this situation to taking a sledgehammer to the boiler and I think the tenant ought to pay to have it repaired in that case.

BUT the message you are giving us is that you don't like the way the tenants choose to run the boiler. The way they are running it doesn't seem unreasonable to anyone else on here and the boiler ought to be up to the job. Maybe if this was the 4th or 5th time it failed and there really was nothing wrong with the boiler other than they way they operated it you would have a case but objecting to paying £300 to meet your legal obligations and avoid prosecution is just churlish.

tbs624

limeburner wrote: »

for those that dont get it. the forum is called "money saving" expert.

For those that don't get it, this is a consumer website and in the LL/T relationship it's the T who is the consumer.

Any LL who seeks to save money by failing to meet his stat obligations needs some "counselling" by the local TRO/EHO. Potentially lining yourself up for a court visit and a fine seems a weird way of looking to save money.

Limeburner is either trolling (yawn) or is indeed a rookie LL whose real name may well be appearing in the Rogue LL thread at some point in the future.

Several of us have asked about the annual safety check & certification and he has chosen to remain silent on that one.

Contrary to his belief, the property being offered at a lower rent than other properties does not wipe out the legal obligations on gas safety and maintenance of heating systems.

Gwhiz

tbs624 wrote: »

For those that don't get it, this is a consumer website and in the LL/T relationship it's the T who is the consumer.

Any LL who seeks to save money by failing to meet his stat obligations needs some "counselling" by the local TRO/EHO. Potentially lining yourself up for a court visit and a fine seems a weird way of looking to save money.

Limeburner is either trolling (yawn) or is indeed a rookie LL whose real name may well be appearing in the Rogue LL thread.

Several of us have asked about the annual safety check & certification and he has chosen to remain silent on that one.

Contrary to his belief, the property being offered at a lower rent than other properties does not wipe out the legal obligations on gas safety and maintenance of heating systems.

I HOPE he's a troll just so that I know he's not really out there being a terrible LL!

zzzLazyDaisy

Gwhiz wrote: »

I HOPE he's a troll just so that I know he's not really out there being a terrible LL!

Gwhiz, I suggest that you edit your earlier post. It is abusive and will be removed by the abuse team and you are likely to end up with a warning (or even be PPR'd)

Gwhiz

zzzLazyDaisy wrote: »

Gwhiz, I suggest that you edit your earlier post. It is abusive and will be removed by the abuse team and you are likely to end up with a warning (or even be PPR'd)

Done because you asked so nicely

N79

zzzLazyDaisy wrote: »

Posted by OP in May 2009

"I am 28 and wish to start saving regularly into a SIPP. I feel a SIPP would give me more control and a wider choice of investment for my pension. "

I know that it is not impossible for a 29/30 yr old to be a landlord, but given the credit crunch and the difficulties obtaining mortgages, I'd say it is probably unlikely (especially as the OP seems to indicate that these tenants have been in situ for at least a year).

I think this post is a wind-up. But if not, we have one very immature and short-sighted landlord here, who needs to wise up quickly!

Its far from impossible to be a LL at 29 especially if the properties / companies are inherited.