Legal Lollipop Lady?

hartcjhart

Run the b1tch over then claim compo for the damage to your car:rotfl:

exup

chorlton wrote: »

If the lollipop "clearly states Stop Children" then it is either a fake lollipop, or you need to get your eyes tested because they don't say that... they just say "stop" and there is a picture of an adult and a child.
anyway,
It is an offence under the Road Traffic Regulations Act 1984, for a driver to fail to stop for a School Crossing Patrol wearing the official uniform and displaying the patrol stop sign. It is also an offence for a driver to move off whilst the Patrol is still on the road.
School Crossing Patrols have additional powers to stop traffic to help adults cross the road, as well as children going to and from school.

they have the picture probably for that very reason - people grumbling that they have to stop for parents returning after dropping their kids off at school.
Good job you haven't seen a STOP - POLICE sign yet as there may be other people around who may not be police officers.

Limey

:rotfl:

There's one down the road from us that has the habit of stepping out at the last minute and stopping the traffic when the kids are still about 20 yards away from the crossing. You've got to be on your toes when she's about. :eek:

mackemdave

chrisw wrote: »

I leave home at 8.55 each morning, by which time the kids at the school near me are already in. However, I invariably get stopped by the Lollipop Lady letting the parents back across the road, sometimes stopping for a chat halfway across.

The Lollipop clearly states 'Stop-Children'. Is the Lollipop Lady legally allowed to stop traffic for adults? Do I have to stop to allow them to cross?

Some people can find anything to moan about......Yes you do have to stop....recently signs have been errected in my area saying that motorist have a legal right to stop at the lollipop persons request.

You are obviously leaving home too late if a slight delay is bugging you.....

LandyAndy

Perhaps the OP would be happier if all the parents drove their kids to school.;)

vikingaero

chrisw wrote: »

I leave home at 8.55 each morning, by which time the kids at the school near me are already in. However, I invariably get stopped by the Lollipop Lady letting the parents back across the road, sometimes stopping for a chat halfway across.

The Lollipop clearly states 'Stop-Children'. Is the Lollipop Lady legally allowed to stop traffic for adults? Do I have to stop to allow them to cross?

Try leaving home at 8.54.

Strider590

Limey wrote: »

:rotfl:

There's one down the road from us that has the habit of stepping out at the last minute and stopping the traffic when the kids are still about 20 yards away from the crossing. You've got to be on your toes when she's about. :eek:

One near me has to cross a dual carriageway :eek:

Another one nearby tends to stop traffic and then stand there waiting for more kids to come along from 200 yards down the road

More annoying when they stop traffic to allow a cyclist to cross on his/her bike :mad:

molerat

From Bedford Borough Council

A Short History of the School Crossing Patrol

School Crossing Patrols were recognised in the UK by the School Crossing Patrol Act 1953 and instituted on 1 July 1954 through the School Crossing Patrol Order 1954. This allowed local authorities to provide School Crossing Patrols to assist children to cross roads on their way to and from school between the hours of 0800 and 17.30.
Previously police authorities were responsible for this service and traffic wardens as well as the police were authorised to stop traffic to allow children to cross the road. The act enabled police officers and traffic wardens to concentrate on their other duties.
However this is not a statutory duty and remains a permissive function, which means that it is carried out at the discretion of the Borough Council. The responsibility for any child's safety on the way to and returning from school is that of the parents or carer.
The Road Traffic Regulations Act 1984 (sections 26 & 28) defined the criteria for which a School Crossing Patrol has the power to stop vehicles. Since that time, legislation has been updated and while still ensconced in the Road Traffic Regulations Act 1984, section 26 “arrangements for patrolled school crossings” and section 28 “stopping of vehicles at school crossings”, the Transport Act 2000 allows school crossing patrollers to cross any pedestrian who offer their selves to cross the road during patroller’s duty times. It also allows operating times to be determined by each authority providing the service.
The School Crossing Patrol service celebrated its 50th birthday in 2003.

DaveF327

Molerat posted some useful information there.

To elaborate, the 2000 Transport Act modified some very important wordings to the legislation which make all the difference.

270.—(1) The Road Traffic RegulationAct 1984 is amended as follows.
...
(3) In section 28 (power to stop vehicles at school crossings)—
(a) in subsection (1)—

(i) omit “between the hours of eight in the morning and
half-past five in the afternoon”, and
(ii) for “children on their way to or from school, or from
one part of a school to another, are” substitute “a person is”

So the lollipop person is doing nothing wrong, although it's debatable whether certain people in that role are holding and displaying their lollipop correctly to give drivers unambiguous notice of their intention to stop traffic.

Hotspur

Crossings are to be stopped at to let other road users (pedestrians) cross in safety. All the details on this link with one clause from the code below.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070339

195
Zebra crossings. As you approach a zebra crossing
look out for pedestrians waiting to cross and be ready to slow down or stop to let them cross
you MUST give way when a pedestrian has moved onto a crossing
allow more time for stopping on wet or icy roads
do not wave or use your horn to invite pedestrians across; this could be dangerous if another vehicle is approaching
be aware of pedestrians approaching from the side of the crossing
A zebra crossing with a central island is two separate crossings (see Rule 20).