Whipped them all soundly, and sent them to bed. A nation of child haters.

MonkeySaving?

Snooze wrote: »

!!!!!!. You said that my hatred was because of the area I live in. Forgive me for pointing out the obvious, but one would need to know which area I live in in order to make such an assumption. So I am waiting Malcolm >>>>>>>>>

He replied, above, please confirm that you live in the Emerald City

Malcolm.

MonkeySaving? wrote: »

Nice edit Malcolm, you don't look as !!!!!! now.

Thanks MS. While taking the michael is fine with friends. It doesn't always translate well over the internet. Plus, a heated debate on the internet is like a broken pencil - there's no point.

Malcolm.

Snooze wrote: »

!!!!!!. You said that my hatred was because of the area I live in. Forgive me for pointing out the obvious, but one would need to know which area I live in in order to make such an assumption. So I am waiting Malcolm >>>>>>>>>

O.K. you're obviously keen to debate, so here goes. I'll attempt to address each point in turn.
1) I'm not !!!!!!, he left some time ago. He's rumoured to be wookster, but this is yet to be proven and wookster has always denied the link.
2) I never said anything about hatred. They are your words. Not mine.
3) In your experience, you see children misbehaving. I pointed out that this isn't always the case, and is likely to be area specific. I don't need to know your house number (or your sexual orientation) for this to be the case.

Snooze

Malcolm. wrote: »

O.K. you're obviously keen to debate, so here goes. I'll attempt to address each point in turn.
1) I'm not !!!!!!, he left some time ago. He's rumoured to be wookster, but this is yet to be proven and wookster has always denied the link.
2) I never said anything about hatred. They are your words. Not mine.
3) In your experience, you see children misbehaving. I pointed out that this isn't always the case, and is likely to be area specific. I don't need to know your house number (or your sexual orientation) for this to be the case.

What evidence do you have to support this seeing as you have no info on where I live now nor where I have lived in the past? I fear the answer to that is "none" and you are talking out of your backside as usual.

DKLS

tyllwyd wrote: »

Or until your child has grown into a well behaved and respectful adult who doesn't use derogatory terms like breeders to describe other human beings?

Oh please, the terms I use of breeder and brat are not derogatory in the slightest, In moments of anger I have some crackers that are truly derogatory.

Children:
Crotchfruit, crotchcritter, f*ck trophy, crotchspawn

Adults:
Moomy, Egg packer

Just to counter my usual child rants, I was in Starbucks yesterday, and there was breeder dad in front of me, clad head to toe in SuperDry, with his 4 kids, who couldnt/wouldnt do as they were told the children were incapable of following the simple instruction of dont touch, by the time I sat down, my wife pointed out a family of two parents and two kids sat near by, the kids were lovely well behaved and polite, the parents were engaging them and the family talked not shouted about some future camping holiday plans, and I nearly fell off my chair when I heard the following.

"Please may I leave the table mummy?" YEEEEEESSSSSSSS :T:T there is hope, parents do exist

Malcolm.

Snooze wrote: »

What evidence do you have to support this seeing as you have no info on where I live now nor where I have lived in the past? I fear the answer to that is "none" and you are talking out of your backside as usual.

More evidence(?), I'd rather french kiss a Skunk.

ninky_2

lostinrates wrote: »

I have to admit I'm not really put of being romantic by kids anymore than I am by other people.....I think its kind of good for children to see respectful and ...within reason, adult affection...i.e. kissing, hand holding etc....anything that I'd do at a table above the table cloth. Real world and socially aceptable standards...or the child's own adults saying ''wow, they should get a room'' itself might be a useful tool for the child to understand what is ''socially acceptable'' and what is not.
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no i didn't mean from that point of view lir. me and OH are not a couple for "get a room" behaviour in public. i sort of meant that when you are feel a bit mushy and romantic and had planned a nice relaxing meal out it can somewhat spoil the ambience to have a child screaming a temper tantrum or a parent doing that loud parent style speak you get when they talk to their kids (seems to happen whether they are doing something good or bad - a sort of high volume narration).

Malcolm.

I've found restaurants on the continent, mainly in southern europe, to be more accepting of children in restaurants. I suspect it may be influenced by a strong family culture.

I agree with the above post about noise getting in the way. If I had gone out for a romantic meal, and found we were next to a table with an uncontrollably noisy child. I would ask to be moved.

MRSTITTLEMOUSE

Malcolm. wrote: »

I've found restaurants on the continent, mainly in southern europe, to be more accepting of children in restaurants. I suspect it may be influenced by a strong family culture.

I agree with the above post about noise getting in the way. If I had gone out for a romantic meal, and found we were next to a table with an uncontrollably noisy child. I would ask to be moved.

We have a place in Southern Italy so go there often and we've found the children there to be much better behaved and respectful from a very young age than they are here.
That like you say is influenced by a strong family culture we just don't have here.

neverdespairgirl

I don't think that hitting children teaches them much. Smacking isn't necessarily abusive (although, of course, it can be, if violent) but I don't think it helps.

I wasn't smacked or hit as a child, neither were my sisters and brother, and I've never smacked my son. None of us make a habit of starting riots.

A year or so ago, I was in an under-5s playroom at our local children-only park. A boy of about 5 was running wild, pushing other kids over, grabbing toys, being a right little pain. He then hit another child in the chest. Mother finished her fag outside the room, stormed in, smacked him across the fact, and said, "what have I f**** told you about that?"

Bet that taught the child a lot.