Whipped them all soundly, and sent them to bed. A nation of child haters.

Long_tall_sally

DKLS wrote: »

Well said that man, I stopped going to the cinema, due to ineffective parents being unable to teach their kids to !!!!!!, and I bought a projector instead. But equally I have lost count of meals out that have been ruined due to some screaming brat, I wouldnt have dared behave like some of the kids behave.

I was with my mum at the garden centre cafe last sunday and 3 kids were running wild, sheiking and squealing, when one of them crashed into a pensioner, I approached the parents, half expecting a stereotypical chav I was shocked to find 3 middle class mothers having tea and cake, one them advised that her little johhny was just expressing himself :mad: so I expressed myself by complaining to the restaurant manager and they were asked to either control their children or leave.

They are not brats, they are kids. They don't behave as adults because they are not adults & they don't have an adult's perpesptive or understanding of other people's feelings because they are not adults. You wouldn't expect a child to become a fluent reader after one literacy lesson, so why do you expect kids to behave like an adult before they have had a chance to learn from mistakes & experience as a child? Yes, ok if the parents aren't supervising them properly fair enough, but that is the parents at fault not the kids.

I remember another time when my son was younger when he had a tamptrum just as we got into Sainsburys (as he didn't want to go in) & I was trying to stop it but perhaps not as effectively as I could have because I was feeling so tired & stressed with life at that moment in my life. I was also being told by the "experts" at the time to just ignore the bad & praise the good & it would all be sorted. A very nice lady walked by me & said to me "Try to laugh love, not cry, we've all been there and it does get better." Her thoughtful but nonjudgemental comment managed to stop me from bursting into tears in the shop & gave me the strength & energy to deal with my son effectively.

DKLS

Generali wrote: »

The many people in the UK with your attitudes (kids are 'brats') are the reason that I feel blessed to live 10,000 miles away from you and people like you.

Typical breeder Its not so much the kids I cannot stand its the parents, I didnt say all kids were brats, just the ones that dont know how to behave in public due to having ineffective parents, who either lack the skills or simply cannot be bothered.

PS Thankyou for taking your offspring 10,000 miles away to annoy another nation. :T

Percy1983

In my 27 years of life there is only 1 time I have thought a kid needs to be gaged, it was on a bus and this baby just wouldn't stop screaming and the mother just didn't seem to care.

With that I don't seem to have any pa-e-d-o-fear as it was put, I remember joining a cue in a super market and there was a young boy who was starting to get worked up (no doubt by the sweets at the checkout), and I still remember arriving and his little teary eyes looking at me and then looking amazed after a few seconds of thinking he pointed at me and said 'ITS BATMAN!' (yes I had a batman t-shirt on), to which his mum just then said don't be silly to which a slight frown appeared, to which I soon jumped in with 'I am batman!'. To which followed a simple conversation about catching baddies and being a good boy, his mum started to say sorry as they left to which I pointed out it was fun.

I just remember I was a kid once and I now doubt did the same.

Long_tall_sally

DKLS wrote: »

Typical breeder Its not so much the kids I cannot stand its the parents, I didnt say all kids were brats, just the ones that dont know how to behave in public due to having ineffective parents, who either lack the skills or simply cannot be bothered.

PS Thankyou for taking your offspring 10,000 miles away to annoy another nation. :T

Personally, I find your comments very offensive. Yes there may be some parents who "cannot be bothered" as you put it or indeed "lack the skills" but there is no manual to read unfortunately on how to be a perfect parent and like anything it is a learning curve for the parents as they go along & unless you have been there & done that, it is so easy to look on from the outside & critisize.

Sapphire

Long_tall_sally wrote: »

Personally, I find your comments very offensive. Yes there may be some parents who "cannot be bothered" as you put it or indeed "lack the skills" but there is no manual to read unfortunately on how to be a perfect parent and like anything it is a learning curve for the parents as they go along & unless you have been there & done that, it is so easy to look on from the outside & critisize.

I think there are plenty of 'parenting' manuals around in Britain these days, but unfortunately not teaching parents to discipline their kids and bring them up to be polite, well mannered and considerate of others – which is terrible for the kids and will not result in attractive adults.

The parents who allow their kids to run riot are incredibly selfish, think they own the world and have probably been spoiled and/or badly bought up themselves.

Long_tall_sally

Sapphire wrote: »

I think there are plenty of 'parenting' manuals around in Britain these days, but unfortunately not teaching parents to discipline their kids and bring them up to be polite, well mannered and considerate of others – which is terrible for the kids and will not result in attractive adults.

The parents who allow their kids to run riot are incredibly selfish, think they own the world and have probably been spoiled and/or badly bought up themselves.

Yes there may be plenty of books around but I can guarantee you that they all tell you different things, even from the moment they are born, e.g should you always comfort a crying, hungry baby or should you leave it & "train" it to fit into a regular 4 hour cycle.

I am not saying that parents who do not try to discipline their kids are not selfish. I am saying that it is a learning curve for the parents to know how to do so most effectively (and if my own two are anything to go by, then I can only assume that different tactics work for different children) and that children cannot be expected to behave 24/7 because they are only part way through their own learning curve on their way to becoming adults. We cannot expect them to run before they can walk.

It is also not polite or well mannered to call someone a "breeder" and that was from an adult.

Sapphire

Long_tall_sally wrote: »

Yes there may be plenty of books around but I can guarantee you that they all tell you different things, even from the moment they are born, e.g should you always comfort a crying, hungry baby or should you leave it & "train" it to fit into a regular 4 hour cycle.

I am not saying that parents who do not try to discipline their kids are not selfish. I am saying that it is a learning curve for the parents to know how to do so most effectively (and if my own two are anything to go by, then I can only assume that different tactics work for different children) and that children cannot be expected to behave 24/7 because they are only part way through their own learning curve on their way to becoming adults. We cannot expect them to run before they can walk.

It is also not polite or well mannered to call someone a "breeder" and that was from an adult.

Didn't today's parents in Britain learn anything from their own parents, for God's sake?

People like the poster who referred to 'breeders' often feel resentment at what they see around them in relation to the unfortunately increasing propagation of an incredibly destructive species on an already massively over-crowded planet.

michaels

Perhaps you would like reminding of that when you are in your dotage and looking for a nurse to change your incontinence pad but unfortunately there are none to be had because everyone listened to your advice and decided not to reproduce?

Sapphire wrote: »

Didn't today's parents in Britain learn anything from their own parents, for God's sake?

People like the poster who referred to 'breeders' often feel resentment at what they see around them in relation to the unfortunately increasing propagation of an incredibly destructive species on an already massively over-crowded planet.

DKLS

Long_tall_sally wrote: »

Personally, I find your comments very offensive. Yes there may be some parents who "cannot be bothered" as you put it or indeed "lack the skills" but there is no manual to read unfortunately on how to be a perfect parent and like anything it is a learning curve for the parents as they go along & unless you have been there & done that, it is so easy to look on from the outside & critisize.

Ah so its the fault of a total lack of child rearing manuals, funny I noted a whole bookcase of them at the bookstore recently but perhaps those books lack some common sense, instead of "ignore the bad and praise the good", how about punish severely the bad and praise the good, that I reckon would be so much more effective.

Worked when I was a child, but then again, my mother was my mother and not wanting to be my friend.

I will stand by my term breeder, you dont become a parent in my eyes until you have a well behaved and respectful child.

tyllwyd

DKLS wrote: »

... I will stand by my term breeder, you dont become a parent in my eyes until you have a well behaved and respectful child.

Or until your child has grown into a well behaved and respectful adult who doesn't use derogatory terms like breeders to describe other human beings?