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Whipped them all soundly, and sent them to bed. A nation of child haters.
Orpheo
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We are a nation of child haters. The evidence is everywhere and here on these boards. From those who believe that only the wealthy should be allowed to have children, to those who froth furiously that they are paying for other people to have kids, to those who can't abide the fact that children exist in the same world and behave like, well, children. Even our nursery rhymes are full of child abuse.
Why should children be a privelege of wealth? Victorian children to wealthy parents were raised by the hired help. If they were lucky they may see Papa for a few moments in the evening should it be convenient. How times have changed. Oh, actually, no they haven't, the children are looked after by the nanny all day while mummy and daddy take care of more important things, like their careers. And it isn't just the wealthy. The aspirational classes, shackled to their mortgages, rush their children to the minder/nursery/breakfast club at 7am pick them up from the minder/nursery/after school club at 7pm and deposit them in front of their consoles/computers/TVs until long after they should have gone to bed. Meanwhile mum logs on to the interweb to chunter about how much the child care is costing her.
Parenting skills in this country are abyssmal. Walking through a subway at the weekend a mum and her toddler come walking in the opposite direction. The toddler, recognises the echo in the subway and begins to shout; to me the child is learning, exploring his world, being a scientist; mum sees it differently, the child is being bad and gets a rollocking and slapped legs. I can't count the number of times I've seen children bend down to pick something up or look at something, a stone, a twig, an insect, only to be told by the parent "ew, get away from that." Then there's the pacification of misbehaving children with sweets and chocolate, you're the adult, assert yourself.
Toddlers throw tantrums. Deal with it. If someone's toddler is having a paddy in the supermarket, it is not bad parenting, it is what toddlers do. If you find it annoying, tough $*@t. Way back when mini Orpheo was a very little girl, she decided to try the stampfooties when Mrs Orpheo denied her some sweets. Mrs Orpheo ignored her case of the stampfooties, not so the lady behind, who said, "Oh, I'll buy her some sweets." You can imagine Mrs Orpheo's choice words to this foolish interloper.
Children don't ask to be born. You have kids, you support them. If you don't want kids, fine, there's one sure fire way of ensuring that you don't have them and that means keeping it in your pants.
Don't like other people's children in a family pub or restaurant? Go to one that doesn't have a children's license then precious.
Oh And you don't need to smack your kids. No. No you don't, not if you are an assertive parent you don't. Yes, when you were smacked it did do you harm, it made you think that smacking your kids was OK. Lost your temper and smacked them? Stress makes you violent. Smacked them calmly and coldly? Sinister. Learn to say no and mean it. Have consistent rules and sanctions, consistent is the key. Make sure that you always control their priveleges and they know that they can be taken away.
Kids sense how adults feel about them, older kids more so. If you despise them they'll know. It is about time we took care of our children and took responsibility ourselves rather than passing on the responsibility to the state. I shouldn't have to teach them right from wrong, that's your job. Take some time off work.
Why should children be a privelege of wealth? Victorian children to wealthy parents were raised by the hired help. If they were lucky they may see Papa for a few moments in the evening should it be convenient. How times have changed. Oh, actually, no they haven't, the children are looked after by the nanny all day while mummy and daddy take care of more important things, like their careers. And it isn't just the wealthy. The aspirational classes, shackled to their mortgages, rush their children to the minder/nursery/breakfast club at 7am pick them up from the minder/nursery/after school club at 7pm and deposit them in front of their consoles/computers/TVs until long after they should have gone to bed. Meanwhile mum logs on to the interweb to chunter about how much the child care is costing her.
Parenting skills in this country are abyssmal. Walking through a subway at the weekend a mum and her toddler come walking in the opposite direction. The toddler, recognises the echo in the subway and begins to shout; to me the child is learning, exploring his world, being a scientist; mum sees it differently, the child is being bad and gets a rollocking and slapped legs. I can't count the number of times I've seen children bend down to pick something up or look at something, a stone, a twig, an insect, only to be told by the parent "ew, get away from that." Then there's the pacification of misbehaving children with sweets and chocolate, you're the adult, assert yourself.
Toddlers throw tantrums. Deal with it. If someone's toddler is having a paddy in the supermarket, it is not bad parenting, it is what toddlers do. If you find it annoying, tough $*@t. Way back when mini Orpheo was a very little girl, she decided to try the stampfooties when Mrs Orpheo denied her some sweets. Mrs Orpheo ignored her case of the stampfooties, not so the lady behind, who said, "Oh, I'll buy her some sweets." You can imagine Mrs Orpheo's choice words to this foolish interloper.
Children don't ask to be born. You have kids, you support them. If you don't want kids, fine, there's one sure fire way of ensuring that you don't have them and that means keeping it in your pants.
Don't like other people's children in a family pub or restaurant? Go to one that doesn't have a children's license then precious.
Oh And you don't need to smack your kids. No. No you don't, not if you are an assertive parent you don't. Yes, when you were smacked it did do you harm, it made you think that smacking your kids was OK. Lost your temper and smacked them? Stress makes you violent. Smacked them calmly and coldly? Sinister. Learn to say no and mean it. Have consistent rules and sanctions, consistent is the key. Make sure that you always control their priveleges and they know that they can be taken away.
Kids sense how adults feel about them, older kids more so. If you despise them they'll know. It is about time we took care of our children and took responsibility ourselves rather than passing on the responsibility to the state. I shouldn't have to teach them right from wrong, that's your job. Take some time off work.
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I guess I pretty much agree. And I don't have any kids. Two points do spring to mind though:
1. I don't know what this has to do with house prices or the economy.
2. It sounds a bit like you're having a breakdown via this forum.0 -
I stopped reading after "We are a nation of child haters" since it was wrong.0
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Children don't ask to be born. You have kids, you support them. If you don't want kids, fine, there's one sure fire way of ensuring that you don't have them and that means keeping it in your pants.
Er, um, actually. . . The reason why you think you're seeing so many anti-children posts is precisely because of the above quote from your post.
But posters aren't anti-kids at all. Just anti the not insignificant class of benefits scroungers who think of England (with £ signs in their eyes) when lying back for some profitable procreation.
No-one is blaming the kids. Only the parents -- and a State welfare system that, until recently, has been the softest touch of all.0 -
I guess I pretty much agree. And I don't have any kids. Two points do spring to mind though:
1. I don't know what this has to do with house prices or the economy.
2. It sounds a bit like you're having a breakdown via this forum.
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
No, just a rant. There have been a number of threads where children have been part of the equation.Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE ForumTeam0 -
I stopped reading after "We are a nation of child haters" since it was wrong.
If you are put off by every emotive title then you can't be too well read. You must hate the papers. I'm not sorry to miss you.Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE ForumTeam0 -
If you are put off by every emotive title then you can't be too well read. You must hate the papers. I'm not sorry to miss you.
I wasnt put off by the title (which I didn't quote) which is why I started to read the thread, but then when someone starts with such rubbish it is not worth the effort to read further.0 -
I wasnt put off by the title (which I didn't quote) which is why I started to read the thread, but then when someone starts with such rubbish it is not worth the effort to read further.
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Lucy, compared to most editors, you are a p-u-s-s-ycat.Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE ForumTeam0
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