If you really want a pay rise do this...

mjm3346

MikeR71 wrote: »

Can't believe this thread is still knocking about! What is there to argue over? The idea is a non-starter and completely impractical. It's just daft.

Daft? that's putting it mildly.

alanbluecat

What a laugh! I can't believe this argument is still rumbling on over a year later.
Anyway, for what it's worth I can see both sides of the argument and think each are right in their own way.
On the anti-mumbles side - it is correct, 2 employees on the same contract with the same holiday entitlement are no better off regardless when the holidays are taken in the year.
On the pro-mumbles side - there is a benefit to taking the holidays one month earlier each year, but it is not a financial benefit. It is the perception that you are gaining something that your colleague is not and that is that you work for less time between holidays, 10 months between and not 11. Financially it sorts itself out when you leave the company with a deduction/payment for holidays taken more than entitlement, or holidays entitled to but not taken.

Personally, in theory, I would prefer to work the cycle of 10 months on then take a month off, changing jobs when necessary to continue the cycle, rather than working the cycle of 11 months on and one month off. Unfortunately life doesn't work as cleanly as that for most people as holidays tend to be spread over the year for various reasons and having time off over the summer months (at roughly the same time every year) may seem more desirable to some people than time off in October or November (and working backwards throughout the year). If I did work the 10 month cycle though, I wouldn't feel financially better off (because I wouldn't be) but there may be a small element of satisfaction that my holiday 'month' would come round 'quicker' than my colleague. Is this feeling of satisfaction worth a 'premium' to you? If so, use the system, if not don't. There is no financial benefit.

I look forward to the next 12 months worth of arguing the toss over this

pcyam

haha this thread has cheered me up so much. I didnt see this thread until today, read the first page, scanned the second, gave up and just went to last page to see how many posts have been posted about this.

And like what others have said, you work 12months you get our full holiday entitiement regardless when you take it (as long as its during the period of eg jan-dec, march-april etc). You dont work the full allowance and take it all at the beginning then they dock your pay in your final salary.

ANd it may seem that you work 12 months and work 11 months, but its just a perception. Because you're not thinking about how many months there is in a calendar year, INSTEAD you are thinking of when you last had your holiday entitlement (is we say you take full months) to when you have your next holiday. Because if you think like that then you can have this years entitlement in June and Have next years entitlement in January, so does that mean you've worked 6months and going to have 12months pay, no because you will still need to work he rest of the year WITHOUT anymore holidays (which is really depressing).

The comment to the original OP about who stays in the same company now for 10years, and recommendation is to stay in a company for 4 years max, in todays, if you have a job with annual leave and decent salary, you keep it. Few years back you may have been able to quit in the morning and walk into a new job later on in the afternoon (ok maybe not that quick) but in todays economy, you quit today and the next job may either 1-may actually not be as good pay (eg work longer hours but no overtime-it happens) 2-you're pretty much starting at the the 'bottom' 3-you may find last in, first out, and then be part of the stats of how many people are unemployed. Dont get me wrong, i am not saying that, that is what everyone thinks, but these days job stability is more important (even though no one is really 'safe' in any job but at this moment in time I would prefer to be good at something I know than start learning about a new company at the moment).

:0)

mrsyardbroom

I think you are very lucky to be in a position to change your job every year. Sooner or later this will backfire when you're applying for your fourth or fifth job and the interviewer asks, "Why did you leave all your previous jobs after 10 months?" In my part of the country you'd end up on a permanent holiday.

mumbles_one

if you take your holidays earlier every year then the days worked between the holidays will be less . If you take your holidays later every year then the days worked between holidays will be more. . If you take your holidays at the same time each year then the number of days you have to work before your next holiday will bet the same every year.

you don't need to use calculator to work out the benefits

rhialwencomp

What the...

Did you just bump your thread that has been dead for two years and was a massive argument for the year it was running?

Why?

geordie_joe

rhialwencomp wrote: »

What the...

Did you just bump your thread that has been dead for two years and was a massive argument for the year it was running?

Why?

Because he is a child and children like attention.

PenguinOfDeath

Where's the troll button?!

SnowMan

Can't just be a co-incidence that the OPs username is an anagram of 'be lemon sum'

geordie_joe

PenguinOfDeath wrote: »

Where's the troll button?!

Bottom right corner marked SPAM. If enough of us use it his message will disappear.