If you really want a pay rise do this...

Dave101t

so really, after all the effort, you get another week off a year. you could of just called in sick you lunatic.

redped

mumbles_one wrote: »

simple huh ???

You said it, mumbles, you said it.

Shotgun_Rider

mumbles_one wrote: »

simple huh ???

Yes, I think you are to be honest or a troll as I said earlier.

bigpat

I've only just seen this thread and it's the funniest thing I've read in ages. I've nearly fallen off my chair a few times. It's abso-freakin-lutely hilarious. I love the bit where Mumbles use the analogy of having your birthday a day earlier each year. That's inspired! Oh wait, that would mean I'm "spending" my life more quickly.

I'm going to HR in the morning and asking if I can have next year's holidays this year. No point mcuking around and doing things by halves!

jobeyonekenobi

Very subtle Trollism. And to get so many people commenting on the idiocy of your scheme? Masterfull. Anyone would have snapped at all the people calling them an idiot by now, if they were not in it to stir people up.
You Sir, are the physical embodiment of a computer virus - tying up precious resources without anyone realising.

slgkid

This is a very funny thread and has cheered me up no end today. So much so i have joined the MSE forum to give my 2ps worth:
1. The title is very misleading. I know this has been mentioned before but i dont know whether its been pointed out that if you spend more money during your holidays than when your are working (as i do), it is effectively a paycut as you will only have 11 months of savings / disposable income to pay for each holiday rather than 12.
2. Mumbles, i do like the idea of holidays coming sooner every year (which i have taken to be your point) and i think that if people can do it in their job and situation, it would be a great thing to do.
3. Junior Hamish, your example above highlights mumbles point. You could work 10 months between holidays (mumbles) or you could work for an extra month between holidays so in 11 years time you can take your two months off (or claim the accrued leave on leaving).
4. I can see a few practical obstacles to the general idea such as the school holidays restricting teachers / parents, bosses not letting you have a month off work all at once, less hours of light in the winter months (if you are an outside sort), organised events or needing leave for emergencies.

There we go, my first MSE forum post is complete. Thanks to everyone for cheering me up today with this thread.
p.s. the only trolls i know relate to fishing and fairy tales so dont know what the reference to a troll is all about. But if you are one, mumbles, good for you :-)

elliff

I can't be bothered to read all 29 pages of this thread - but from what I have read both mumbles and everyone else are right.
However, the fatal flaw in mumbles' plan is that you have to quit (or even better get fired) before you catch up with the date you begin accruing holiday.
In essence it's the same as (albeit a rather convoluted and prolonged version of) taking all annual leave in January and then resigning in February.
In theory the company could take the holiday pay back from your final pay packet - however this would depend on your contract and may not be lawful if it is not an explicit policy, it also assumes that you have pay owing.
Also, this assumes that the company realises - in my experience not every company works the same way - My partner works for a supermarket and her holiday is accrued "pro rata" depending upon how many hour/days she works and she cannot take holiday before it has accrued so this would be impossible. The company I work for operates differently and my contract states that i am entitled to 33 days leave, which I do not have to accrue before taking (I can in theory take all of it on Jan 1st without working a day in that holiday period).
My HR dept is not particulary hot on this, if a new starter joins midway through the year they are creditted on the computer system as having 33days leave even though they are only actually entitled to half of that. It falls to the line manager in question to alter the allocation "pro rata", as most of the line managers I know would probably think that "pro rata" is a pest contol expert, this almost never happens - the same happens when someone is long term sick - I have known people have nearly a year off sick, come back and be told that they have the rest of the year off on holiday!
Oddly enough, noone in the company I work for has ever felt the need to point this out to management!
If you work for a company that actually knows what they are doing, mumbles theory simply doesnt work, however there are plenty of companies who dont have a clue and mumbles can therefore exploit their ignorance.

wotsthat

Hey mumbles.

What's your take on the CERN experiment which seems to have found particles that can travel faster than the speed of light? It's likely that there's an error in the data but it does seem to open up the possibility of time travel. I'm thinking of taking a day off then getting in my time machine to go back 24 hours and working the same day. My company will think I've worked a day but I'll know that I had the day off. Therefore I will get a full days pay whilst only having worked 50% of the time (8 hours out of 16) and will still have my full entitlement.

grimsalve

I used to get blind drunk every Friday and Saturday night but I just realised recently that if I go out on the razzle on Thursday night instead then I can phone in sick on Friday.

This means I get five days pay for only four days work per week which I think adds up to 48 days extra holiday per year. :T

gymsalesjames

This does not work, let me explain why: (Take for example holiday year jan-dec)

Year 1, you work 10 months and accrue a month off (November) and then work December
(total months worked 11, months off 1)

Year 2, you work 9 months (as you worked december, 9+1=10) and accrue a month off (October) Then work November and December
(total months worked 11, months off 1)

Year 3, you work 8 months and accrue a month off (september) and then work oct nov dec.
(total months worked 11, months off 1)

Notice a pattern?? You always work 11 months and have 1 off no matter when you take the holiday)

Fastforward a few years and you get to the secnario of:

Jan off, work February-December, still having 1 month off and working 11 months.

Now, in the scenario of leaving after january (in out last model) you would not be paid for the month off as you would have not have accrued it.

Speaking from a purely mathematical grounding (I have a degree in the subject), this is an interesting idea but 100% incorrect.

QED.