If you really want a pay rise do this...

mumbles_one

gymsalesjames wrote: »

This does not work, let me explain why: (Take for example holiday year jan-dec)

Year 1, you work 10 months and accrue a month off (November) and then work December
(total months worked 11, months off 1)

Year 2, you work 9 months (as you worked december, 9+1=10) and accrue a month off (October) Then work November and December
(total months worked 11, months off 1)

Year 3, you work 8 months and accrue a month off (september) and then work oct nov dec.
(total months worked 11, months off 1)

Notice a pattern?? You always work 11 months and have 1 off no matter when you take the holiday)

Fastforward a few years and you get to the secnario of:

Jan off, work February-December, still having 1 month off and working 11 months.

Now, in the scenario of leaving after january (in out last model) you would not be paid for the month off as you would have not have accrued it.

Speaking from a purely mathematical grounding (I have a degree in the subject), this is an interesting idea but 100% incorrect.

QED.

There are many ways to get to the right answer.
You are not thinking about this before writing the replies.

The system worked for me on a monthly basis because I never planned staying all my working life with one company.

Try looking at a solution that fits your employment contract. You need consider how many years you have left to work.

You don't have to take your holidays one month earlier every year.

You could take them 1 week earlier every year and that would allow you to stay in the same company for 50 years. (+/- 2% improvement)

or split your holidays into 2 blocks of 2 weeks and take them 2 weeks earlier every year and that would work for 25 years ( >4% improvement)

or split the holidays and take them 3 weeks earlier or any multiple of the above

And of course you could take the same weeks every year and get no improvement.

which is best for you???

grimsalve

What if you get paid while you're on holiday? :huh:

TimBear

Nonsense! I get 25 days holiday a year from work, regardless of when I take it!

If I left my company having taken holiday I'd not yet accrued for that year they would claw it back from my final pay packet.

Ridiculous!

terra_ferma

Is this a wind up?
If the company does not keep good holiday records than any method will work, you just book holidays that don't get recorded.
If they do when you leave they will count the holiday you have accrued, pay what you are owed, or take off what you owe them if you have taken too much.

This would have not worked in any of the companies I've ever worked for. I've actually done holiday calculations for staff leaving and HR would then pay whatever salary was owed to them, minus holidays taken.

geordie_joe

mumbles_one wrote: »

The system worked for me on a monthly basis because I never planned staying all my working life with one company.

I didn't work for you at all. You have said that every company you have worked for would only let you take holidays after you have accrued them.

So your system could not have worked for you as it relies on taking holidays BEFORE they are accrued.

Why don't you just admit it, you are a school kid and have no experience of work or taking holidays.

If you had any experience at all you would know your system can't work, and even if it could nobody would use it because it would mean taking holidays when you didn't want them just because a system says you should.

patriciahelen

I like the idea but would there be any precautions?

mumbles_one

mumbles_one wrote: »

There are many ways to get to the right answer.
You are not thinking about this before writing the replies.

The system worked for me on a monthly basis because I never planned staying all my working life with one company.

Try looking at a solution that fits your employment contract. You need consider how many years you have left to work.

You don't have to take your holidays one month earlier every year.

You could take them 1 week earlier every year and that would allow you to stay in the same company for 50 years. (+/- 2% improvement)

or split your holidays into 2 blocks of 2 weeks and take them 2 weeks earlier every year and that would work for 25 years ( >4% improvement)

or split the holidays and take them 3 weeks earlier or any multiple of the above

And of course you could take the same weeks every year and get no improvement.

which is best for you???

this explains it perfectly

MikeR71

Can't believe this thread is still knocking about! What is there to argue over? The idea is a non-starter and completely impractical. It's just daft.

gb12345

My god what a pr*t.

Mumbles I work as a contractor, therefore I don't accrue or get paid for holiday - what would you recommend is the best time for me to take of each year?

mumbles_one

gb12345 wrote: »

My god what a pr*t.

Mumbles I work as a contractor, therefore I don't accrue or get paid for holiday - what would you recommend is the best time for me to take of each year?

first of all read this from the Business Link site

People who are genuinely self-employed may not be entitled to the same rights afforded to employees. However, depending on the contract under which they are providing services, they may qualify as workers. Under these circumstances they would be entitled to workers' rights such as holiday pay. If you are in any doubt about a person's employment status, you should seek professional advice.


then
If you are taking holidays just think about this:


if you only take one week every year by taking it one week earlier every year will mean the number of weeks worked between your holidays will be 50 which is less than 51.


does that make sense to you???


by the way how did you know I was religious???