If you really want a pay rise do this...

Wellery82

I don't understand this. Take a five year cycle where you start on Jan 1st -

Year one - You take month in September- 20 days holiday
Year 2 - Your take a month in August - 40 days holiday
Year 3 - You take a month in July - 60 days holiday
Year 4 - You take a month in June - 80 days holiday
Year 5 - You take a month in May - 100 days holiday

So basically you have had 11 months between each holiday but taken 100 days in total.

OR doing it as you actually want to -

Year 1 - You take 2 weeks in October and 2 weeks in December - 20 days
Year 2 You take a month in October - 40 days
Year 3 - You take a week in February, June, November and December - 60 days
Year 4 - You take a month in September - 80 days
Year 5 - You take a month in October - 100 days

There are periods where you have had longer gaps, periods where there are shorter gaps, but all in all you have taken the same amount of holiday in 5 years?

katiekittykat1977

I heart this thread.

destroyerofdebt2011

Simply put this assumes that the company u work for allows you to carry holiday over years. Having worked for serveral companies as have friends and familys despite the workers thinking on an accruals basis as per the .gov website the HR department do not, but in fact run on quite often either the official financial year (makes payroll easier) or the same year end as their accounts for their holiday periods.

if u start workin in May of year 1 and finish on May of year 5 (ie 5 years) you still only get 5 years accrued holiday which ever method u use.

regrettably u sound like the same kinda person i want to bang my head against a brick wall over when they cant grasp that a week in hand is not an extra weeks pay on top of what they have worked but they cant seem to grasp that they work monday to friday get paid that friday so they have worked a week in hand.

Further more all the companies i have come across have never allowed someone to take a 4 week holiday without some serious reason for doing so as this is too long an absence for most to find cover for on a yearly basis or in ur case a 10 mnth cycle no wonder u've never lasted 10 years in a job.

destroyerofdebt2011

:rotfl:

mumbles_one wrote: »

Its an improvement to your employment contract which improves your conditions and is the same as a pay rise. You work less days between holidays than others . This is equivalent to a pay rise

:rotfl:


My favorite bit how about take every other friday off that way your only ever 13 days between holidays! personally id rather have more money in my pocket because ur method has no financial benefit at all
HR are more likely to approve the fridays too.:D

budgetflyer

eyeinthesky wrote: »

This thread has made me chuckle :rotfl:. All you are doing is taking the holiday that you have legitimately earned, and are not, in fact, gaining anything from this whatsoever;). Of course HR will not refuse to let you have this holiday, you have earned it, but in the full year you would be entitled to 28 days holiday. This equates to another full weeks holiday, so looking at it from this viewpoint, you could say that you are losing a week each year :rotfl:.

No mumbles_one isn't. on a 12 month cycle , you are working an extra 3 weeks a year

mumbles_one's system really does make sense as you are being paid 12 months but only working 10 so the real life equivelent on a 12 month cycle its like getting 2 month off.

Pound

budgetflyer wrote: »

mumbles_one's system really does make sense as you are being paid 12 months but only working 10 so the real life equivelent on a 12 month cycle its like getting 2 month off.

No, you're only getting one month off per year. See:?



You could say that December Yr.1 to November Yr.2 is a 12 month period and you're getting 2 months' holidays in that period but if you did that you would need to look at all the following years in the same way (e.g. Dec Yr2 to Nov Yr3) where there is only one month holiday.

music2dance2

I thought you had to wait until a new year started before you could earn holiday if you had use them all up? If so this system wouldnt work, no?

BindyB

This thread is amazing! :rotfl:

I have a better system though, rather than take all the holiday in one go (I've never known any employer allow you to do that anyway, apart from in exceptional circumstances), I take a week here and there (because, quite frankly, I'm normal), this means I only work for 11 weeks before I get to have a holiday.

I am the winner!

geordie_joe

music2dance2 wrote: »

I thought you had to wait until a new year started before you could earn holiday if you had use them all up? If so this system wouldnt work, no?

This is the whole point, Mumbles thinks that if you take all your holidays at once, you start accruing holidays again when you go back to work.

But as she has never worked, she doesn't know that if you take your holidays before they are accrued, when you go back to work you won't accrue any holidays until you have "paid" for the ones you took in advance.

Her system is similar to asking your employer for a two week advance on your wages. So you work four weeks and get paid for six weeks. It sounds like a winner, if you have never worked and don't realise that next month your employer will take 2 weeks wages off you. So you'll work four weeks and get only two weeks wages.

She is just a child, and hasn't learned that if you spend/use something before you have it, it's credit, and you have to pay it back. She still thinks that if she asks mummy for an advance on her pocket money, on pocket money day mummy won't ask for the advance back, so she'll have had the advance and still have all her pocket money.

When she grows up she will learn that only mummy does that, employers won't.

DermotFlanigan

mumbles_one wrote: »

lets go through this again. lets assume holiday year is january to december . you start work for the company on jan 1. Work for 10 months then take 22 days holiday in november. you have now worked 10 months and had 1 month holiday. Return to work dec 1 and work another 10 months until end of september and take another 22 days holiday in october. You have just worked 10 months and taken 1 month holiday.Return to work on november 1 and work 10 months until end of august and take 22 days holiday in september . you have worked 10 months and taken 1 month holiday. return to work on october 1 and work 10 months until end of july and take another 22 days holiday in august. just keep on doing this. Your pals at work who take august every year work 11 months and then get 1 month holiday but you only work 10 months and get 1 month holiday. who works more for the same money???neat???
Understand now??????

You're still working 11 months a year (Jan-Dec) though. The same as everyone else...