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redcard

mumbles_one wrote: »

Lets suppose you only get 1 day per year holiday and you plan to stay with that company for 60 years . what is the best strategy to take the one day per year??? is it best to take your day on 31/12 every year ??? or is it better to take your day earlier every year??? by about 6 days earlier would be my guess. Whats yours???

Take the first year on 31/12, take the 2nd year on 30/12

You worked 364 days to get one day off.
You then work 363 days until you get your 2nd day off.

Total of 728 days employed and you have taken 1 day off. Agreed?

So because you have worked pretty-much 2 years, and only taken 1 day holiday, the 'system' allows you to work 1 day less each year.

Yes, you can work a day less each year until your holiday, but only because you worked 728 days with only 1 days holiday in the first 2 years.

So you made the sacrifice at the start, and will benefit from the 1 less day in following years.

It works the same way with shift patterns. If you're working 5 days from 7 and those days off change, you could end up with 4 days off in a row, but only because you've worked 10 days in a row to earn that time off!

Got it?

mumbles_one

redcard wrote: »

Take the first year on 31/12, take the 2nd year on 30/12

You worked 364 days to get one day off.
You then work 363 days until you get your 2nd day off.

Total of 728 days employed and you have taken 1 day off. Agreed?

So because you have worked pretty-much 2 years, and only taken 1 day holiday, the 'system' allows you to work 1 day less each year.

Yes, you can work a day less each year until your holiday, but only because you worked 728 days with only 1 days holiday in the first 2 years.

So you made the sacrifice at the start, and will benefit from the 1 less day in following years.

It works the same way with shift patterns. If you're working 5 days from 7 and those days off change, you could end up with 4 days off in a row, but only because you've worked 10 days in a row to earn that time off!

Got it?

but employee who takes 31/12 every year has to work 364 days before getting the 1 day holiday but employee who takes 30/12 only has to work 363 days and if he takes one day earlier every year he keeps it that way. While employee who sticks with the same day works 364 days between holidays. Which is best????

mumbles_one

mumbles_one wrote: »

Lets suppose you only get 1 day per year holiday and you plan to stay with that company for 60 years . what is the best strategy to take the one day per year??? is it best to take your day on 31/12 every year ??? or is it better to take your day earlier every year??? by about 6 days earlier would be my guess. Whats yours???

this is the best explaination

redcard

This 365 days thing is confusing and annoying. Let's stick to a months holiday every 12.

1st year - Work 11 months, holiday in December
2nd year - Work 10 months, holiday in November
3rd year - Work 9 months, holiday in September
4th year - Work 8 months, holiday in June
5th year - Work 7 months, holiday in February
6th year - Work 6 months, holiday in !!!!!! I'VE RAN OUT OF HOLIDAY!!!!!!

mumbles_one

redcard wrote: »

This 365 days thing is confusing and annoying. Let's stick to a months holiday every 12.

1st year - Work 11 months, holiday in December
2nd year - Work 10 months, holiday in November
3rd year - Work 9 months, holiday in September
4th year - Work 8 months, holiday in June
5th year - Work 7 months, holiday in February
6th year - Work 6 months, holiday in !!!!!! I'VE RAN OUT OF HOLIDAY!!!!!!

1st year - Work 11 months, holiday in December
2nd year - Work 10 months, holiday in November work december
3rd year - Work 10 months, holiday in october work nov and dec
4th year - Work 10 months, holiday in sept
5th year - Work 10 months, holiday in aug

so when you are on the last day of your holidays there is only 10 months until your next holiday and not 11 months like everyone else

redcard

Exactly the same result, you just run out of holiday in year 9, then have to work 22 months until your next holiday.

So yeah, we have conclusively proved you can work 1 month less until your holiday, but only as long as you're prepared to work 22 months without one to balance it up

Sixer

Why can't you get it?! You just delay the loss!

1st year - Work 11 months, holiday in December
2nd year - Work 10 months, holiday in November work december
3rd year - Work 10 months, holiday in october work nov and dec
4th year - Work 10 months, holiday in sept
5th year - Work 10 months, holiday in aug
6th year - Work 10 months, holiday in Jul
7th year - Work 10 months, holiday in Jun
8th year - Work 10 months, holiday in May
9th year - Work 10 months, holiday in Apr
10th year - Work 10 months, holiday in Mar
11th year - Work 10 months, holiday in Feb
12th year - Work 10 months, holiday in Jan
13th year - Work 23 months, holiday in Dec - BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY HAD THAT YEAR'S HOLIDAY!

And if you leave at any time during a period, the company will claw back any unaccrued holiday you took via your last pay packet.

mumbles_one

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/Timeoffandholidays/DG_171945
the link is how holiday accrual works.
every month employed accrues 2+ days to your holiday pot
so after 11 months you have 22 days and you take 22
december and the next year gives you another 22 days by november

This works if you work for a company with monthly accrual and allows you to carry your holidays over from year to year. See the link, it explains it. If you have a different holiday system where you work you will have to move to a company who has a more flexible holiday system

skintc

mumbles_one wrote: »

As you seem to know everyone in the world I must ask this question Do you know anyone from Scandinavia? Ask them about holidays just about everyone takes one month off in June or July . Try going to Paris in August. Its practically closed as everyone is on holiday for a month. The list is long

Why has no one else picked up on this? This has to be the funniest post from this entire thread.

I can just picture Paris now, like a ghost town with all the shops boarded up, no people, and a tumble-weed, rolling by.:rotfl:

mumbles_one

Not far from the truth . I used to work in La Defense and it was a ghost town in august