Its All Kicking Off Outside Tory HQ

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A._Badger wrote: »

Just the usual far-Left rabble rousers at it again, recently woken from their long slumber under NuLabour.

From what I heard a lot of them voted Lib Dem & are remarkably p'ed off that Nick Cleggy & Caballs broke their election promises about abolishing fees.


Any student has a right to be more than a bit annoyed if they voted Lib Dem for that very reason.

Loughton_Monkey

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

From what I heard a lot of them voted Lib Dem & are remarkably p'ed off that Nick Cleggy & Caballs broke their election promises about abolishing fees.

Any student has a right to be more than a bit annoyed if they voted Lib Dem for that very reason.

Yes, this is the real inflammatory reason. Cleggy & Co spent an awful lot of time canvassing the student vote on the basis of being the only party wanting to eliminate fees.

Now he has got into bed with best mate Dave, and is supporting the increase in student loans, it is, shall we say, mildly provocative. Clearly, he didn't have either the 'passion' or the negotiating skills to put this on the list of conditions when he 'got engaged' to Dave. And instead of issuing (at least pretending to issue) threats of divorce, he seems to be backing it to the hilt.

Talking of hilts, he needs to watch his back since several of "his own" are sitting there weapons at the ready.

As for the students, then some of them are demonstrating (excuse the pun) their lack of intelligence by using violence - guaranteed to dimish public support - thus hardening opinion that we should squeeze even more blood from lazy, idle, revolting leeches of society.

Rochdale_Pioneers

Look at it like this. Clegg stood in a student constituency on a platform of opposing tuition fees in favour of a graduate tax. He publically signed a pledge to vote against fees and made all his candidate follow suit. Yet he has since admitted that he had already decided against the graduate tax (leaving more fees as the only feasible solution) but declined to tell his party, the electorate or anyone.

Clegg lied to the electorate, just the same as Woolas did. Don't expect a viable challenge to Clegg's election result, but await the recall election with interest.

nearlynew

Rochdale_Pioneers wrote: »

Look at it like this. Clegg stood in a student constituency on a platform of opposing tuition fees in favour of a graduate tax. He publically signed a pledge to vote against fees and made all his candidate follow suit. Yet he has since admitted that he had already decided against the graduate tax (leaving more fees as the only feasible solution) but declined to tell his party, the electorate or anyone.

Clegg lied to the electorate, just the same as Woolas did. Don't expect a viable challenge to Clegg's election result, but await the recall election with interest.

Your beloved labour party introduced these fees after pledging in their manifesto that they wouldn't.

All politiicans are lying f*cking thieves.

Let's hope some of the protesters realise this and start targeting the labour party as well.

And eventually get round to the bankers.

N1AK

nearlynew wrote: »

Your beloved labour party introduced these fees after pledging in their manifesto that they wouldn't.

And they paid for it in terms of student support afterwards. The Lib Dems provided 'the student vote' with a natural home, now they've been betrayed (and I do think the word is apt) by the Lib Dems.

I was a student in 2002-2005 (pre-tuition fees). Even though it didn't affect me I protested against it because I think shouldering young people with huge debts is wrong.

Rochdale_Pioneers

nearlynew wrote: »

Your beloved labour party introduced these fees after pledging in their manifesto that they wouldn't.

Yep. And I'm certain that various Labour MPs at the top knew fully well what they were doing, but its harder to prove with a longer gap between the election and the decision being made.

You have to admit that signing a pledge in April that you later state you disagreed with then and within months are campaigning vigorously
for the exact opposite of that pledge, its understandable when people thing "hang on a minute"

Wookster

Rochdale_Pioneers wrote: »

Yep. And I'm certain that various Labour MPs at the top knew fully well what they were doing, but its harder to prove with a longer gap between the election and the decision being made.

You have to admit that signing a pledge in April that you later state you disagreed with then and within months are campaigning vigorously
for the exact opposite of that pledge, its understandable when people thing "hang on a minute"

It is cleaning up the mess that you bozos left.

labour also left a cancer. That cancer is the belief that you can get things for free, get rich quick without doing any work and that you don't need to live within your means.

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Loughton_Monkey wrote: »

As for the students, then some of them are demonstrating (excuse the pun) their lack of intelligence by using violence - guaranteed to dimish public support - thus hardening opinion that we should squeeze even more blood from lazy, idle, revolting leeches of society.

Some of them have been robbed of their vote.

And that is down to Clegg & the Dems.

Arg

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

From what I heard a lot of them voted Lib Dem & are remarkably p'ed off that Nick Cleggy & Caballs broke their election promises about abolishing fees.


Any student has a right to be more than a bit annoyed if they voted Lib Dem for that very reason.

How many seats did they get compared to conservatives?

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Arg wrote: »

How many seats did they get compared to conservatives?

What has that got to do with anything?


Are you saying they should of smashed up both the Libs & Cons buildings proportionately?