work placement or work slavement ?

sunday_girl

scooby088 wrote: »

I think it's a price we have to pay to get a job these days, but isn't that what we do when we do volunteer work...but in the end the OP would get a paid position...

All i can say is fair play to her you are really a inspiration to everyone on here.

Not really, people can choose to volunteer and, on the whole, volunteer work is usually for the benefit of charities/good causes....not companies that make billions of pounds of profit each year :mad:

Sounds to me like they are taking advantage of people who are desperate for work due to the tough economic climate and that cannot be right.

DCFC79

sulkisu wrote: »

OP, just a thought but have you aplied to the supermarket in question directly - i.e in store or possibly even online? It is possible that the whole 'unpaid placement' thing only applies to those on JSA (and therefore making their applications via the job centre). I realise that you are not on JSA but they might be treating you as if you were. I have looked on the Tesco website - they have plenty of jobs advertised and no mention of a two week trial.

Regardless of what the jobcentre have told you, you should contact the store yourself, if you have not already done so.

ive never found the tesco recruitment site all that good as the jobs i see on there have been for management and not shop floor staff(maybe someone has found shop floor jobs on the site) but they can be advertised instore, ive seen sada jobs advertised on direct.gov(a friends cousin sent her cv to asda and got a job in the store after having interview etc), jobs for sainsburys are advertised online

scooby088

sunday_girl wrote: »

Not really, people can choose to volunteer and, on the whole, volunteer work is usually for the benefit of charities/good causes....not companies that make billions of pounds of profit each year :mad:

Sounds to me like they are taking advantage of people who are desperate for work due to the tough economic climate and that cannot be right.

but many charities pay their ceo's loads of cash plus pay companies to get people to sign dd mandates.

in my opinion the OP is desperate to regain control of her life and fund her own way of life, and if doing this she gains a job then it will be worth it.

It never ceases to amaze me that some contributors to forums continually moan about those lazy benefits claimants that do nothing to find work, and when the OP gets castigated for doing this work trial. The double standards really rankles with me.

dickydonkin

scooby088 wrote: »

but many charities pay their ceo's loads of cash plus pay companies to get people to sign dd mandates.
It never ceases to amaze me that some contributors to forums ontinually moan about those lazy benefits claimants that do nothing to find work, and when the OP gets castigated for doing this work trial. The double standards really rankles with me.

I don't think that the OP is being 'castigated' - far from it - it is the criticism of Tesco that seems to be the common denominator on this thread by accepting people on work trials without remuneration.

Of course charities pay the going rate to their management - these people are paid to generate donations for their charities that benefits good causes - Tesco and other large corporations generate revenue for profit and to satisfy their shareholders.

Quite a diffference I believe!

seven-day-weekend

Hi Cindy, well done on your 'placement' and I hope you get a job through it.

My son was unemployed in 2007 and applied to Matalan three times, was ignored each time and then did a two-week work placement there (a proper one because he was on JSA, so although he was paid nothing by the store he did get to keep his JSA) and was given a job at the end of it so I hope the same happens for you.

He was at Matalan three years but I'm now glad to say he has recently started a job at Morrisons' who so far seem to be a very good employer. He is on a three month probationary period but is paid at full rate whilst on it. He much prefers working there to working at Matalan.

I think sometimes, wrong as it is, working for nothing to get a job is the only way to get one and I admire anyone who is prepared do that to gain employment.

Good luck and I wish you well.

FOURCANDLES_2

Well I have an issue with all this business with regards getting the long term idle back to work it will not work. First issue if they have children the money that they get can only be reduced but not stopped.
Many long term unemployed are working 2-3 days a week in some type of on the side work as they were in the 80's.I know 2 brothers who live on a small holding by me, neither have worked for 17 years they get basic benefits the home they live in they own along with the 5 acres , so they do not get any houseing benefits other than council tax rebate and they live happily on that . The fact here is they will go on this work course happily just to get out a bit, they the dss had to stop putting them to work in charity shops because it was meant to get them to work but they enjoyed it for the few months they did it then went back to do nothing.They send them on other courses again they enjoy the courses and it drives the dss mad . You will never get these off benefits or any like them all you can do is stop all benefits but with these guys they would just go and work 2 -3 days .I was also talking to a guy the other day who said he is working with a guy who is on benefits has been for 5 years and works 4 days a week and time off for courses etc . It is a myth that all these people are sat at home watching tv etc they are working getting paid and claiming benefits the guv just cant catch them .

purplepardalis

Cindy!! Was that you on LBC earlier?!!!! :-)

Person_one

dpassmore wrote: »

I don't think that the OP is being 'castigated' - far from it - it is the criticism of Tesco that seems to be the common denominator on this thread by accepting people on work trials without remuneration.

Of course charities pay the going rate to their management - these people are paid to generate donations for their charities that benefits good causes - Tesco and other large corporations generate revenue for profit and to satisfy their shareholders.

Quite a diffference I believe!

Actually, plenty don't pay anything like the 'going rate'. They pay enough to attract talented and capable people but they tend to be talented and capable people who also care about the cause and don't mind accepting a lower salary than they might be able to get in business.

Charities often really rely on their volunteers, without them they wouldn't be able to do the work they do. They usually treat them very well, repaying reasonable expenses, providing training and development etc.

Tesco is not exactly a worthy cause and is certainly not so strapped for cash that they need 'volunteer' labour to keep doing their good work! A previous poster's point about the fair trade food they sell was a good one, the hypocrisy is shocking.

chuckley

r u the lady that was talking about it on LBC this morn? having heard it, im now totally disgusted they r allowed to get away with this. i mean they claim its a 'work trial' and at the end tell people 'off u go'. even the hardest workers there. and then they get another set of 'trial' ppl in and start the cycle again all the while paying NOBODY for the 30+ hs a week job/trial/placement. The very least they can do is pay travel and food. night transport aint easy for some folk.

god they r disgusting.

pimento

Googling found me this:

http://intensiveactivity.wordpress.com/2010/09/18/work-trialsanother-racket/