MSE News: Student tuition fees could treble by 2012

adindas

You and your family have nothing to loose, apart from separating your children with family. They will someday anyway when they enroll at the university.

The worst case the tuition fee is similar to those in England (which is highly unlikely) you will have two options let them study in Scotland or England.

ADINDAS

Optimist wrote: »

lol I wouldn't bother there is a growing opinion in Scotland that the current system is financially unsustainable and some sort of graduate contribution is required.

Scotland are in for a budget cut of 6% this next year so something will have to go.

adindas

lol :j

But at least it is better than if they study at the "international school" at East or West Asian Countries (or other part of the world where English is not the national language.

Let the children learn various accent. They will need this skills in the future as there are more and more people speak English with different accent.



ADINDAS

BLT wrote: »

Not being able to understand a word the lecturer says? :rotfl:

Oldernotwiser

adindas wrote: »

You and your family have nothing to loose, apart from separating your children with family.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

So much for Asians having close families!

ceewash

Should we also be looking at value for money. 5 hours a week "tuition" on my son's course, and finished by end of April.

The_One_Who

adindas wrote: »

Thank you for the info.
So I think the best way to avoid tuition fee is by planning in advance. Send your relatives, niece, children to do their GCSE, AS level in Scotland and they will later qualify to study at the university for free in Scotland.

This is a much better option rather than living universities with huge amount of debt.

There are a lot of good universities in Scotland.

ADINDAS

Nice try, but I don't think being there specifically for educational purposes counts as being ordinarily resident. The whole family would have to move. Also, Scots don't do GCSEs or A Levels (unless you go to a private school and even then not always), and for a lot of people you will have to go to university in Scotland. Most Scots don't have the option of going to university elsewhere because of the education system.

ceewash wrote: »

Should we also be looking at value for money. 5 hours a week "tuition" on my son's course, and finished by end of April.

The fees don't just pay for the time in a lecture. They pay for everything required: the lecturer's time in both giving the lesson and preparing for it, the library resources, the student union and their staff fees, the utility bill for the rooms used, the computing facilities, etc, etc.

Oldernotwiser

ceewash wrote: »

Should we also be looking at value for money. 5 hours a week "tuition" on my son's course, and finished by end of April.

University study is about learning rather than being taught (although I do agree about how ridiculously early courses finish these days). Tuition fees cover so much more than just the hours in the classroom with a tutor.

Person_one

BLT wrote: »

Conversely there is no justification in the taxpayer funding an individual doing a degree in fashion or Art. If you want a freebie university education from society there has to be some form of payback

A few dodgy pictures and nicely designed frocks don't quite cut it :-)

Always so much contempt for the arts.

Do you wear clothes? Do you have furniture or curtains or wallpaper in your home? A Monet reproduction hanging in the hallway? Do you watch television or go to the cinema? Do you visit websites or play computer games? Do you have a record collection and a favourite album sleeve? Do you have professionally taken pictures of your children on your desk at work?

Let me guess, you think Van Gogh and Picasso are 'acceptable' artists but that more recent art is worthless? You were appalled that the Taliban banned music but you think music students are scroungers?

The arts may not be essential for survival, but I think a society without them would be a sadder place for everybody.

angelofmel

Person_one wrote: »

Always so much contempt for the arts.

Do you wear clothes? Do you have furniture or curtains or wallpaper in your home? A Monet reproduction hanging in the hallway? Do you watch television or go to the cinema? Do you visit websites or play computer games? Do you have a record collection and a favourite album sleeve? Do you have professionally taken pictures of your children on your desk at work?

Let me guess, you think Van Gogh and Picasso are 'acceptable' artists but that more recent art is worthless? You were appalled that the Taliban banned music but you think music students are scroungers?

The arts may not be essential for survival, but I think a society without them would be a sadder place for everybody.

yes, but (in my opinion anyway) media, art, fashion are all things that could (and most students who study at degree level would probably benifit more from) be learnt to the same level as a degree through internships and placements in existing companies... and with the benefit of experience at the same time. instead of say getting a degree and trying to cut your way into a certain area of the feild (and failing cus you have no practical experience or there are no jobs available and then end up working in mcdonalds...) it seems to me a much better way for these kind of jobs to work from the bottom up... (though i know some people dont nessecerily want too, fair play)

probably didnt articulate that opinion very well there, sorry blergh headache. hope you get the gist

ellesbellesxxx

For those of you concerned about people currently at university, it is my understanding that their current rate of fees will stay the same.

What shocked me was the fact that people who are able to pay back their loan early, will be liable for an early repayment charge. What shocked me even more, was that earning more was perceived to be unfair! I have just repaid my student loan as I have a very generous family who were stunned at the amount of interest I was having to pay each year and the fact that I have been paying 99 a month out of my Teacher's salary. My friends and I all blithely took out loans, perceiving them to be low interest, when in fact since I left uni 3 years ago I accrued 1000 worth of interest ( on a 6000 loan!)

Some of my friends had to take the best part of 18000 worth of loan and do not even count it as a loan, as they feel they will never pay it back.

Something is not right!

Oldernotwiser

ellesbellesxxx wrote: »

For those of you concerned about people currently at university, it is my understanding that their current rate of fees will stay the same.

What shocked me was the fact that people who are able to pay back their loan early, will be liable for an early repayment charge. What shocked me even more, was that earning more was perceived to be unfair! I have just repaid my student loan as I have a very generous family who were stunned at the amount of interest I was having to pay each year and the fact that I have been paying 99 a month out of my Teacher's salary. My friends and I all blithely took out loans, perceiving them to be low interest, when in fact since I left uni 3 years ago I accrued 1000 worth of interest ( on a 6000 loan!)

Some of my friends had to take the best part of 18000 worth of loan and do not even count it as a loan, as they feel they will never pay it back.

Something is not right!

Well, one of the things that's not right is the fact that you don't seem to have realised that your loan has been accruing interest from the day you took it out, not from the day you graduated!


If you're repaying £99 per month then you must be earning over £28,000 - could you have been earning this sort of salary in your early 20s unless you'd been to university? Doesn't it seem like a good investment to you and your parents?