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Cmdr_Bond

That certainly seems a good answer, based on the last 4 lines, but I too at am a loss as to how to connect them to what we have previously.

RE: Frederick, PoW http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick,_Prince_of_Wales

Marg2k8

Cmdr_Bond wrote: »

going back to the first line, if we look at IN ANY CLONE, and think of it like a cryptic crossword, if we look inside ANY CLONE we find NYC - New York City.

So I think that we are on the right track as far as Budapest - New York - Washington - Statue of Liberty - ???

That is pretty similar to what I said here:-

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=38103364&postcount=23

Marg2k8

SheepAreEvil - it's a good idea and can do no harm to have a guess, but I have niggling doubts. I think that the object will be be more modest in scale and I reckon it will actually be signed or inscribed by a Pope (not The Pope).

Cmdr_Bond

SheepAreEvil wrote: »

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I have put it in as an answer but have no idea how it all connects as I was following the clues and was in St Petersburg?!

Can you explainn how you got to St. Petersburg?

SheepAreEvil

I was in St Petersburg because I was stuck so I started again and instead of the New York path I went with Reykjavik as a city of spas and the followed it to its twin city Saint Petersburg which was a Capital city (and is still called the NorthernCapital) before Moscow which is directly south. As the Stele I was looking at a number of monuments etc but was mainly looking at The Bronze Horseman a monument to Peter the Great (its father) and the largest stone ever moved by man. Thats where I was stuck I was looking at the Russian Victory Banner but not really as it was not the next year. I thought I still might be in the right place because Saint Petersburg sits on the Baltic which in my earlier post I found was once called the wild sea.
Then I took a break from that path and was looking at Beau and Pope when I came to that answer but still don't think it was right but worth entering as you can put one in each day. I don't know really I'm just trying different things.........

Cmdr_Bond

Cheers, it is a possible link.

thetoothfairy

this is driving me mad!! I think the post at #61 is right...but how does it all link up?

so far, I have:

In a city of spas (Budapest?) we find in any clone (New York)
A partner (ie is twinned with Budapest), once capital (of America), now prone
To lament its status lost to southern rival (Washington)
Whose stele (Washington monument, fininshed 1885)ensures its fathers survival


Next year victory and liberty (1886, the statue of liberty was finised in New York) was raised to please
Or a sad departure across wild sea at 38 degrees (here's where I go wobbly - does this mean Lisbon (around 38 degrees north) - possibly referring to yet another obilsk - th one erected to denote the end of Spanish domination of Portugal?)


Oldest of friends, far away to the north (referring to friendship between England and Portugal...was their one?!)

A POW (Referring to Frederick, Prince of Wales) once sallied forth

Was feted by a beau (Beau Nash) and inscribed by a pope (Alexander Pope)

Modest in scale and coloured taupe (brown coloured) (the answer at #61)

What and where am I?


has anyone got that middle bit sorted??

Cmdr_Bond

Re Reykjavik/St.Petersburg vs Budapest/New York.

My gut says New York is right - the grammar just doesn't make sense for it to be anything else, as it would read We find a clone as opposed to We find in any clone.

In fact, I think we are right on the money up to the Statue of Liberty. I also think that #61 is the right answer. But I would love to be able to make the connection to Frederick, PoW.

Marg2k8

thetoothfairy wrote: »

Or a sad departure across wild sea at 38 degrees (here's where I go wobbly - does this mean Lisbon (around 38 degrees north) - possibly referring to yet another obilsk - th one erected to denote the end of Spanish domination of Portugal?)

Welcome to the madhouse thetoothfairy and thank you for this contribution.

It was only when I read your post that I have looked again closely at the 38th parallel North. Although someone posted a link previously about what countries it ran through, I have only now looked more closely to see exactly where it goes and from what I can see, it does goes pretty close to, if not through New York (and as you say, Portugal). I don't know if anyone is able to provide a link to show if it does or does not go through New York, because I have only been able to find it on a world map and have not been able to zoom in. Likewise, if anyone can find a map of Portugal showing exactly the position there, then this may be useful. (I have been looking, but without success).

thetoothfairy

I checked out the 38 line on google earth, and from what I remember it goes just south of Lisbon, and then across the sea, seems to go just south of Washington...so further south than NYC.

I wondered if it might be referring to the obilisk in Lisbon as per my post (and continuing the theme of obilisks/ monuments!)? but that is very tenuous - it almost seems as if the answer can be solved purely by understanding the last paragraph...in which case is the first bit all just a bit of a red herring? Although I suppose it gets one thinking of obilisks and the like!