The Ultimate Incentive to get debt free… again. Dinah & NIM go head to head!

Dinah93

Cinny91 wrote: »

I agree with Tete Dinah, you're so slim! Don't go crazy with the dieting to lose more weight you don't need to.

Speaking of, I've had a little turning point in diets. There's a guy on Twitter called Kenneth Tong who was on BB the second to last series (I think) he's pushing the idea of 'managed anorexia' and there are all these girls following him wanting to be skinny, calling him an inspiration and he's posting such sick things to them. It has, however, confirmed what I've been thinking for a while. Life is worth so much more than worrying about your weight, I eat well and I'm a size 12. So diets are banned from my house, and I'm adopting this attitude to it all from now on.

All very well if you're a healthy weight, but when you have high blood pressure it's not about looking cute in a pair of jeans, its about making sure you don't have a stroke or have to stay in hospital for months if you decide to have a baby. And weight and more importantly exercise make a huge difference to my blood pressure so I need to keep an eye on it.

And that advert only works if you're happy being 'fat', but I don't have a positive body image at the moment, but that probably is partly down to the guilt I feel about the damage I'm doing to myself - I've tried picking up 10kg (about what I need to loose to be average), and its hard work! So I can only imagine the extra stress it puts on my heart when it really doesn't need it!

Tete_en_l'Air wrote: »

Birdie I hate to say it but you all sound like Zillas in your group of friends - everything's such a stress! (sorry *hides*)

Lol I love you! I always thought you were so quiet and subtle, I like the edgier side though!

Tete_en_l'Air wrote: »

What a generous gift from your Gran Lara! The card holders are dead easy - I kept mine in my plastic wallet for ease and just made a cover to go over the top. I used quite a thick fabric but you wouldn't necessarily need to. Just cut out a rectangle a bit bigger and about 4" longer than the wallet when flat, turn over the two long edges and sew, then the two short edges, then fold ends in a bit so you have pockets for the card wallet to slip into (make sure you leave enough 'folding' room) and sew along the edges. Hey presto. Hope that makes sense - have a look at my pics and it should do I think. I was thinking about making a big batch of them and selling them on Etsy for £3-4 but then I saw some much nicer and more professional ones in Paperchase for like £1! Priced out of the market!

I think you should do it anyway, I'd rather buy from an artist than a machine. And £4 is an impulse ammount anyway. Do you have an Etsy shop?

Thanks for asking CMD, I'm unsure to be honest. Mum called in tears earlier in the night, they expected her to go in the next half hour, then she stabalised again. So still hanging in there.

Cinny91

Birdie, it's kind of hard to stop people on Twitter. It's like Facebook times about 100, no one really cares unless a massive fuss is made. It's over now though, quite thankfully it's come out as a hoax. Honestly, I spend a week thinking it's just a guy beefing things up then finally cave and vent a little then it all comes out. He's deleted all the horrible things and replaced them with celebs saying mean things about him. I'm kind of hoping if he went to great lengths to do this hoax by choosing a mental illness to work it on, he made up the girls who were saying they were starving themselves for him too.

Lara, that is a pretty great deal your Mum got! Bless your Nan though

Poddle, that haircut sounds lovely! You'll feel great when you've had it done. As my Nan says, change is as good as a holiday

I completely forgot about OBEM! I was watching Teen Mom, which is just as good for making you not want kids.

Dinah, I don't want you to think I was attacking your views. I hate being that person, I was just posting what I'd been thinking lately. I know your dieting is mainly linked to your health, and it's great you're on top of that rather than just burying your head in the sand over it and letting it get worse. But in all fairness, you did go crazy dieting before your wedding to slim into your dress. You were beating yourself up over just having a little chocolate, and that can't be too healthy mentally, or physically, either. I just don't want to think you're going to be heading back to that kind of dieting. That's all I really meant with what I said.

Dinah93

Sorry love I didnt mean to rant, I realise it came over very crazy, I'm just a bit emotional and in a very dark twisty place atm.

clearmydebts

Dinah93 wrote: »

Sorry love I didnt mean to rant, I realise it came over very crazy, I'm just a bit emotional and in a very dark twisty place atm.

(((Hugs)))

Thinking of you xxx

Cinny91

I didn't think you were having a rant, I just didn't want you to think I was getting at you with what I put. Hope everythings alright, or as good as they can be, at your end tonight. X

Birdie85

Interesting point you made there about trying to lift 10kg and the stress it must put on your heart Dinah, just make sure that you're exercising plenty too to make your heart as strong as possible. How is your blood pressure nowadays, I know it went way down whilst you were off work, has going back to the madhouse sent it back up?

How's your Grandma this morning? x

Tete_en_l'Air

Dinah93 wrote: »

I think you should do it anyway, I'd rather buy from an artist than a machine. And £4 is an impulse ammount anyway. Do you have an Etsy shop?

Not yet but I'm thinking of putting it on my revised 30 by 30 list! Only a year and a month to go - OH MY GOD!

I'd forgotten about your blood pressure there Dinah - I was shocked at your Doctor being over-zealous in the obesity epidemic - didn't think of your heart! Hope your granny is doing OK.

Birdie I saw a Fat Camp thing for kids once where they had to carry big heavy rucksacks about and compare how they felt with them on and with them off, and they said - that's how much better you'll feel when you've lost xxx from your body, which is a good point.

Another good point I heard recently was about how humans have got into this mindset of thinking that being hungry is a bad thing and that you don't see it at all in the animal kingdom - "you don't see a lion snacking on a chipmunk to 'tide him over' til the next antelope" - made me laugh!

Birdie85

That was on that thing about the worlds fattest man wasn't it? That me me laugh a lot too!

There's a guy at work who does all sorts of outdoor activities but has a massive belly and he's always saying how difficult it is walking up hills because he's carrying the same weight in his backpack as he's got on his belly! It doesn't stop him having pudding every day though!

I saw another interesting show last week (not sure what it was because OH put it on when he came to bed and I was only half watching because I was supposed to be getting my beauty sleep!) and they were going over diet secrets and one thing that they went into was that if you eat soup you stay fuller for longer. They gave half of the test group solid food with a cup of water and the other half the same amount food and water blended into a thick soup and did scans of their stomachs and you could see how full the soupy stomachs were well after the solid food stomachs had emptied. The water washes the solid food straight through but the soup is too thick so stays in your stomach being digested. Interesting stuff! Going to start having soup for lunch!

nat21luv

I really felt for the 'fattest man', the stuff he was saying is exactly what I think and Im putting on weight like no tomorrow! He was a little bit of a plonker but I felt for him, we have to eat food everyday and its a constant battle. There were a few people on my business facebook page(i dont know them) who were commenting on this guy saying he's disgusting, greedy, vile excuse for a human and my friend commented saying that when people put on a few pounds its horrible and get some self respect. Now im no skinny minny and I thought of her as a close friend but reading what she wrote made me question how well I know her. She's knows I've put on weight and it really hurt to read that, I want to do something about it but I feel I cant, mentally, Im not in that place. Oh well...

Tete_en_l'Air

I felt really bad for the fattest man too, it must be horrible to be in that situation (and I noticed he had cats so that made me like him). But - there must be a point before the point of no return where you realise you're getting very very obese but there's still time to do something about it before you're actually bedridden and can't even support your own weight anymore, I find it quite shocking that people can get to that stage before wanting to change their life. It was lovely to see him out and about in his chair at the end though, he must have been so lonely.

Birdie, I never feel full after soup but I have started having cup-a-soups with my sandwiches for dinner to make it a smidge more interesting - do you think that counts?