Warning - apcoa - must see

Hadeon

IMO, Stigy-kins really does 'make it up as he goes along', as he has done consistently from the onset of this thread.

AlexisV

I would suppose the more people who flout the posted rules the greater the potential income through users buckling at the last hurdle and paying.

Maybe PPCs would be more successful if they started thinking in terms of contract, instead of 'rules'.

Oh, except there's no money in forming enforceable contracts...

peter_the_piper

If they would have a charge of about a £10er for errors they would make more money as it would not be worth ignoring for the most part. Heck they may even make a profit and sleep at night.

geordie_taxi

Hadeon wrote: »

IMO, Stigy-kins really does 'make it up as he goes along', as he has done consistently from the onset of this thread.

to b honest large pinchs of salt r required for other posters not just stigy

taffy056

geordie_taxi wrote: »

to b honest large pinchs of salt r required for other posters not just stigy

Does that include you ? I seem to remember a certain thread ........

dacouch

We are very lucky that bearing in mind we have sort of steered off the topic that Sassy has not locked this thread

Messrs_Arthur_and_Terry

dacouch wrote: »

We are very lucky that bearing in mind we have sort of steered off the topic that Sassy has not locked this thread

:rotfl:

You're in bug trouble now dacouch.

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sassy_one

Driver8 wrote: »

PRIVATE PARKING TICKETS - DON'T PAY!
IT IS NOT A FINE! YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING ILLEGAL!

This is an information page for the thousands of people who receive "tickets" from private companies in the UK ever day at supermarkets, retail parks, and in any other privately-owned carpark.

We are NOT encouraging anybody to openly flout parking restrictions on private land, or to refuse to pay reasonable charges for parking. Landowners have a right to make reasonable charges for the use of their land.

For advice specific to your case, you should visit the forums at http://forums.pepipoo.com or http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences.
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=163

1. What you should know about these companies

It is important to remember that private parking companies (or PPCs as they are often called) have NO OFFICIAL POWERS - that's right, none at all! They give out their "tickets" on the basis that you have seen the signs in their car park and that you have therefore agreed to a contract obliging you to pay a certain sum of money.


2. What happens to people who don't pay?

In 99.9% of cases, absolutely NOTHING! The company pays the DVLA £2.50 to get your address, and then sends lots of threatening letters. In the main, these letters can be safely IGNORED. The only way the company can actually force you to pay is by taking you to the small claims court, which costs them even more money. And they are by no means guaranteed to win! And they practically never do.

The two main reasons for this (among others) are the following:

- Only the person DRIVING the car could ever have agreed to any such parking contract. The company can only get the Registered Keeper's address from the DVLA: you don't have to tell them who was driving.

-Many of these charges are so extortionately high that they constitute a penalty, which is unenforceable in a consumer contract.


3. Can they affect my credit rating?

NO! The only way your credit rating could be affected by ignoring private parking companies is if you were taken to court, lost, and then still refused to pay. But they will not take you to court.


IN SHORT

The vast majority of the time, you can safely IGNORE tickets from private parking companies, they are not official fines.

The vast majority of the time, you can safely IGNORE the threatening letters, including those from debt collection agencies.

You DO NOT have to pay a penny of your hard-earned money to these companies. Remember that the chances of being taken to court are very slim indeed.

DO NOT IGNORE COURT PAPERS!
If you receive real court papers from a private parking company (very rare) then you should go to http://forums.pepipoo.com or http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences for help defending the claim. Do not be afraid to sign up and ask questions regarding any paperwork you are not sure about.
Don’t believe the above? Watch a solicitor on Watchdog advising you what to do with the scam invoices.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIcdi9niHA
THEY ARE NOT FINES
Only the Police, Courts or Council’s can fine you. NOT a private company, please remember that.
That's going on a few dozen cars again today, the word is getting out there. The PPC's are really getting wound up now because they know they are losing fnaar fnaar :rotfl:

Already stuck over 300 of these on cars at Railway car parks and privately owned car parks

Will be printing more this weekend!

Again folks, who ever you are coming to this thread - IGNORE ALL LETTERS FROM ANYONE THREATENING YOU TO PAY A PPC OR IF YOU RECEIVE A INVOICE STUCK TO YOUR CAR, IGNORE IT.

IT CAN BE NOT BE ENFORCED!

Private Parking invoices are unenforceable by all means, you will not end up in court, your credit rating will NOT be affected.

Do NOT pay, they are attempting to extort money from you.

sassy_one

geordie_taxi wrote: »

to b honest large pinchs of salt r required for other posters not just stigy

The advice remains the same guys, ignore any letters received in relation to a PPC invoice as they are unenforceable.

There are very few stations that are covered by the Railway bylaw section 14, there are far more not covered by it than are.

It is completely, 100% safe to ignore all letters from them.


Regards this thread being closed, as the opening post starter to those who said who am I to 'make the rules', I did not say I made the rules, I said I would have this thread locked, and as the opening poster, I have already been advised I am entitled to do just that, so please, stay on the topic


Finally, For those who state 'Advise on what you know' As already posted by me, I am working at an advice center and offer the advice here just the same as at the center, and not a single one person has gone to court and this year alone I have prevented over 700 clients paying a PPC, not one went to court, not one received a summons, not one has a bad credit mark and not one has ever received a letter again.

I write and send a letter on clients behalf advising them of the clients circumstances then advise them of the law as posted here - I think certain posters need to remember facts, and I* stand by my posts as they are not only facts, they are correct legal advice to offer persons.

Please remember, I am entitled to report any post off topic, abusive or otherwise offensive, admin will confirm such

dacouch

Great advice George received from someone in this thread...see posts 86, 90, 91, 94, 146, 148,151, 152, 154, 193, 196 and 198 http://forum.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=2573777&page=8

Then read post 201...lucky for George he came to MSE and not a certain advice center