Help please:£20 collection charge on collect only item

macfly

It was clearly to cover fees, what else could it be.
As your seller has agreed to waive the fee, paying by cash is the honourable thing to do.

cyberbob

the_cats_meow wrote: »

Hi

They cannot charge you 20 quid for collecting the item

Yes they can. I think you need to look at the rules again.

thelawnet

jaibaby wrote: »

I am a person who charges for collection.

The reason being I sold a watch for £100. Ebay took £10 of charges straight away, plus the £4 odd to list the item (with a reserve), then got charged another £5 odd for receiving paypal payment (I would never do cash on collection!) So that left me with £80 odd. That's not too bad for this item in particular as I bought it at a car boot sale for 50p but imagine if I had paid say £90 for it - I would be at a loss. The fees are stupid on ebay. I know, if you don't agree with them, don't use them. But then my house would be full of junk! I always state that if you want to collect, there will be a charge of £xx.xx to cover listing fees. If they don't like it - they won't bid.

That's liable to get you reported for fee evasion

You need to learn about doing business. If Sainsburys sells potatoes for £1/kg, they are probably buying them for (say) 50p/kg. They don't charge a fee for buying the potatoes, even though they have to pay:

* a fee to accept the payment (cash handling or credit card costs)
* business rates for the premises
* staff costs (training, taxes, salaries, etc.)
* rent for the premises
* light, heating, etc.

These costs are factored into their selling price, and they should be in yours.

The selling price minus purchase price is not your profit. Your profit is selling price minus purchase price minus selling costs.

Obviously if you paid £90 for the item, you'd be a mug, there'd be no profit in reselling at that price. You'd expect a dealer to buy a £100 item for £50 or less, and resell at £100, the difference covering the cost of his time, wages, profit, etc. Buying a '£100 item' (retail price) for £90 is *not* a good deal if you are a trader, that's the difference between buying and selling.

macfly

What??????? Sainsburys no less.
How on earth does this compare with ebay? Sainsburys don't charge postage.
And they don't have anyone taking fees from these expenses.
What you are saying is that ebay rules are being broken. Why not just say that without the bs?

thelawnet

macfly wrote: »

What??????? Sainsburys no less.
How on earth does this compare with ebay? Sainsburys don't charge postage.
And they don't have anyone taking fees from these expenses.
What you are saying is that ebay rules are being broken. Why not just say that without the bs?

No I'm saying that people need to learn that there's more to doing business than simply sell price - cost price.

macfly

But the poster you quoted had that sussed. He knew the costs and knew the profit. He had just worked out a way to negate the fee costs. I don't think he needs any lessons.

thelawnet

macfly wrote: »

But the poster you quoted had that sussed. He knew the costs and knew the profit. He had just worked out a way to negate the fee costs. I don't think he needs any lessons.

Well no, he was justifying his little scam by asking how he would make a profit by buying an item for £90 and selling it for £100 (before fees). Which doesn't seem very sussed to me at all, because the correct answer is you wouldn't....

macfly

No, he was using that example to moan about fees. The word "if" was the clue. You've been watching Dragons Den.

jaibaby

Wooooaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!! Why all the points at me??? For the watch, I did send it via special delivery, I was just making a point!

For charging on collection, why not? No one has complained, in fact some say it's a good idea. If something sells for 99p (for example) and they would like to pick it up, but pay by paypal (as I would suggest for security for both of us).

99p minus 9.9p (final value fee) minus 5p (paypal fee) so that leaves you with say 85p.... ok not so bad.
But like I said, bought something for £100, decided you didn't want it anymore, sold on ebay for £100, minus £10 (FVF) minus £5 paypal. Plus minus any fees added when you listed the items.

Yes, before you all start again, I know ebay are money-grabbers. I wish there was somewhere I could sell my "junk" and it wouldn't cost me. But hey, that's life. I try to give as much stuff to charity, but other stuff I sell on ebay, because it's easier. And if you are the one that don't like the fact that there are sellers out there that do charge a small fee for collection, then the answers simple - dont buy any of their stuff.

jaibaby

thelawnet wrote: »

That's liable to get you reported for fee evasion

You need to learn about doing business. If Sainsburys sells potatoes for £1/kg, they are probably buying them for (say) 50p/kg. They don't charge a fee for buying the potatoes, even though they have to pay:

* a fee to accept the payment (cash handling or credit card costs)
* business rates for the premises
* staff costs (training, taxes, salaries, etc.)
* rent for the premises
* light, heating, etc.

These costs are factored into their selling price, and they should be in yours.

The selling price minus purchase price is not your profit. Your profit is selling price minus purchase price minus selling costs.

Obviously if you paid £90 for the item, you'd be a mug, there'd be no profit in reselling at that price. You'd expect a dealer to buy a £100 item for £50 or less, and resell at £100, the difference covering the cost of his time, wages, profit, etc. Buying a '£100 item' (retail price) for £90 is *not* a good deal if you are a trader, that's the difference between buying and selling.

Lets just take out the fact that I only paid 50p for this watch.

It was a Gucci watch, and they are selling for over £400 on certain websites. If I had seen it in the shop, and I had £100 to spend, I probably would have bought it.

How could I force the selling fees into my price? It was an auction, which I started at 99p, otherwise it would have cost me even more in fees!

And sainsburys - ebay??? Two different things - sainsburys don't charge ridiculous fees when you sell an item!!!!