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Is that the same Phillip Green who set up his missus in Monaco to pay her over a billion in dividend in order to avoid paying a single penny of tax on it over here?
Don't you think there are bigger issues going on here?
We can all fling mud at every single politician. Well aware you are labour through and through, but at least something is being done. If there is mass wasteage, and it's being sorted, I don't give a hoot which party the person sorting it is aligned to. Just that it gets sorted.0 -
starsandmoon wrote: »I work for a local authority and we have all been offered voluntary redundancy.
What if you all accepted?
You sure you don't mean that you were all asked if you wanted to be considered for VR?
Many councils are offering enhanced terms of 1.7-2.2 weeks pay per year worked as against the statutory minimum of 1 week/year (for under 40 year olds)0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »Don't you think there are bigger issues going on here?
We can all fling mud at every single politician. Well aware you are labour through and through, but at least something is being done. If there is mass wasteage, and it's being sorted, I don't give a hoot which party the person sorting it is aligned to. Just that it gets sorted.
A guy whose business empire is based on 3rd world exploitation and child labour, then flogs it off here, paying his shop staff a pittance, then ships the profit out of the country to avoid taxation, who gets knighted for his 'contributions' to the British Empire....and you waffle about bigger issues and labour this and labour that?
PS: Yes there is wastage, lots of it. And yes, it should be sorted.0 -
Is that the same Phillip Green who set up his missus in Monaco to pay her over a billion in dividend in order to avoid paying a single penny of tax on it over here?
Yep.
Knows what he is talking about and how to make things happen.
Trouble is the public sector lacks anybody of his calibre, hence they waste taxpayers money all over the place.0 -
Bangerchick wrote: »
I should know, I am the LGBT green outreach and environmental educational co-ordinator for one.0 -
A guy whose business empire is based on 3rd world exploitation and child labour, then flogs it off here, paying his shop staff a pittance, then ships the profit out of the country to avoid taxation, who gets knighted for his 'contributions' to the British Empire....and you waffle about bigger issues and labour this and labour that?
PS: Yes there is wastage, lots of it. And yes, it should be sorted.[/QUOTE]
Whay has it not been over the last decade or so?0 -
Yep.
Knows what he is talking about and how to make things happen.
Trouble is the public sector lacks anybody of his calibre, hence they waste taxpayers money all over the place.
The guy who turned a business that paid huge amounts of corporation tax into a business that was entitled to tax credits due to the debt he had run through the books ..Only for half of it to end up in his wife's bank.
His company now costs the tax payer ...For him to talk of tax waste show more his views on the "undeserving Classes" than his knowledge of taxation and revenue raising.0 -
You see, years ago you had the gaslighter man. At dusk he'd come round and light the gaslamps.
Then they got electricity in, so needed a surveyor and electrical people. Then the surveyor needed to be more qualified and higher paid - as did the electrical man.
Then the lights needed fixing, so the highly qualified electrical man would do that - but now his workload needed to be managed, so they brought in a manager to manage street lighting. The manager needed training though... and more training. Then the electrician and the manager went onto various courses - and an annual training budget was set up for them. Their offices were then revamped, but the new manager didn't like his chair/desk, so now they needed to hire a workplace assessment officer to ensure the lighting/glare on the screen were OK, which was another job that needed training for. And was his seat of the right sort, more training needed.
The workplace assessment officer had to provide reports on how many workstations he assessed - and pretty graphs and to produce 3 leaflets a year about workstation assessments. So he now needed a better PC and training in the software. But the graphics needed a graphics bloke... so they hired one. He was already trained, but not trained in the office procedures and health and safety etc, so they set him up with a training budget too - and after his induction he sat down at his new desk and promptly called the workstation assessment officer because the glare on his monitor meant he couldn't do any designing. He also needed a new monitor as his manager and IT had done the spec and it wasn't giving truecolour, so useless for designing.
The electrician had to come into the office because the lights needed to be looked at, he then spent another day looking at solutions before filling out paperwork to get three tenders for the job. He inserted all the internal paperwork/prodedures and forms into the envelope with the tender requrests, and slipped in the in-house Diversity Leaflet, just for good measure.
But he did need to advertise for the tendering - so he asked the graphics bloke to produce an advert that met the in-house procedures and policies and included their logo and all the other paraphernalia the 500 page manual on creating simple text ads said was needed.
The quotes came back for the rewiring of the office lighting and the electrician spent a day going over them, then there was a half day consultation meeting before a decision was made. The lights would have to wait, there wasn't anything in the budget.
Meanwhile the graphics bloke had slipped trying to put the heavy internal procedures manual back on the shelf and they now needed to hire in a temp, but he needed to be passed to the HR department for the occupational health procedures to kick in,
Then somebody queried the cost of the street lighting bill .... and they needed to hire in a Green Consultant. Produced three tenders [insert long-winded procedures here], advertised it in the paper [insert long-winded procedures here]. Eventually a Consultant was appointed, who only charged £500k to tell them they could have a new lighting system, that they now couldn't afford.
And all because somebody wanted an electric light and not a gas one in the street.0 -
surely we don't have over 1 million people employed in local councils (assuming 1:50 ratio nationwide)?
It's more like 2.25 million.
There's 500,000 in education, and 280,000 in social care for one thing. Then there's recreation, libraries, planning, enviromental health, culture, trading standards, youth workers, and all the admin and support staff for the aforementioned. It all adds up.0 -
Bangerchick wrote: »I should know, I am the LGBT green outreach and environmental educational co-ordinator for one.
That's a joke right?
Please tell me it's a joke.0
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