Its tough, it will get better and guess what its freezing brrrrr!

NualaBuala

CRANKY40 wrote: »

It did - it just took a long time. I paid for her heating oil last winter because I couldn't bear the thought of my niece and nephews going to bed in their coats. It can take ages, but stick with it. Hugs x

Thanks a mill Cranky, you're a pet! That was so lovely of you to do that for your sister, glad there are kind people like you in the world. :A

sammy_kaye18

Morning all

Well our lurgy update is Owen is still bed, and selfishly refused to go to bed yesterday until 6pm when he got fed up of trying to get comfy on the sofa --- and he has now given his bug to Ben.

Also rang my mother in law yesterday to tell her we wouldn't be up to visit to find out from FIL that she was laid up in bed.
So apparently it looks like this
Lewis (my nephew) caught bug Friday and was asking yesterday to go to school today
MIL caught bug Friday night, bed all day Saturday and had just started eating yesterday.
Owen caught bug Saturday, slept all day yesterday so hopefully he'll manage food today
Benji caught bug yesterday, so will no doubt sleep all day today.

Woke up at 6am to painful screams from Benjamin, coughing his little lungs out, then threw up and was shaking in pain that his belly hurt. Had a spoonful of calpol left in the bottle which hes had and is now cuddled up on the sofa in his duvet watching the tv, Owen is still in bed, Niece is asleep and Holly is still snoozing in her cot (in bedroom with Owen) but I have the monitor on so I can go and grab her when she wakes up.

Hoping to god she is still little enough to have mummy antibodies and a strong milk formula induced immune system so she wont catch it. :eek:

Benjamin is gutted because he has Father Christmas visiting his school today and tomorrow he has a trip to the cinema to see Marmaduke. Both of which I think he might be missing now. Have promised him if he's better though that I will take him on Saturday to see Father Christmas in his grotto in town.

So looks like I have a long day ahead!

P.s Just checked my little prince on the sofa and he's asleep. Wondering whether its worth putting him in my bed with daddy once holly's awake to contain the bugs!

P.P.S Owens up now too!

P.P.P.S He got up to pee and has now gone back to bed.

ceridwen

bluebag wrote: »

Very sadly there are no polytechnics or technical colleges anymore.

My youngest daughter wanted to do an apprenticeship but there were no businesses willing to take on the five students that wished to do it... this is in a large city too. None.

My eldest daughter has just got a new job, the contract says zero hours... in other words if they don't need you they lay you off for however long they like. More and more youngsters are finding the new working world is very different to the one we grew up in.

How are they supposed to fund their education with insecure employment and dire wages ?

They have nothing left to lose, that is a dangerous situation.

A good post - I fully agree with.

I can remember further back in my life (when I was a lot younger) where I specifically thought "If I have much more of a problem with unemployment - then I will have nothing left to lose - and on their head be it if that happens". So - you have made a very good point - because a lot of law-abiding/responsible people can get pushed only so much - and then they have "nothing left to lose".

In my own case - what happened was I then got given a job/a house/the whole "something to lose" scenario - and thought "What kept you? - if it had been very much longer then......."

Those are THE two scenarios where risk of trouble is very high:
- trying to get prepared for a future (qualified for a job/getting a mortgage/etc) and not being able to because of no fault of one's own

- and the one that could hit older people of having been a very good financial planner themselves and got no mortgage/no debt/sorted out for enough income to live on for the rest of their lives (ie both before and after retirement) and then being put in a situation where something the Government did/that happened in Society as a whole affected them and they didnt have enough to live on (even though they had been thoroughly responsible all along and had made sure they would have). Some of us could prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that if financial trouble ever hit us that it wasnt OUR doing - we had never done anything we couldnt afford/taken on responsibilities we ourselves werent well able to cover
(ie the scenario that worries me personally - bit more quantitative easing anyone and ensure that the value of money goes down a bit more??:cool:)

THAT is the point at which the Government/ANY Government will be in SERIOUS trouble - ie if both the above scenarios coincide ever...
(a younger agegroup with the energy and an older agegroup furious that what they already safely have has been taken from them).

Primrose

shelley_crow wrote: »

I've lost what sympathy I had for the students when they turned the marches into an excuse for vandalism and desecration of monuments. I finished my degree in June, things will be tough for a lot of students but unfortunately the protestors have lost their credibility with the general public I think.

Interesting comment. We were in a long shopping queue at the week-end and the general topic turned to student riots. There was general agreement that people would rather the government spent money on rehabilitating injured soldiers in Afghanistan or supporting the elderly, rather than providing a university education for students who had not yet contributed anything to the economy and who were behaving like criminals. Every ody seemed to be in favour of any student found guilty of a public order offence being rusticated from their university.
I know that many students protested perfectly peacefully but their reputation has sadly now been tarnished by the criminal minority in their midst. I have protested against many things in my time, but always peacefully and it grieves me to see what has been happening. Pictures of these riots will have been televised around the world and will have badly damaged our country's reputation.

ceridwen

....anyways..on another topic..if anyone is still finding MSE is working slowly for them - dinnae fash thysel'. I was on the relevant Board saying how I've been struggling with it for the last couple of days and that I think MSE has been caught up in the "backwash" from the Cyberwar currently going on. So there was Fermi (Board Guide) and myself there discussing it and on comes MSE Martin himself and says that it is indeed a bit of cyberwar backwash.
Apparently MSE shares a server with various other firms (one of which I think?? might be some sort of money firm - dont know if that means they transmit money to wherever-its-going and are one of the ones under attack by one side because of having given way to US Govt pressure not to let money through to its destination???) Who knows - it could be some other firm there has been leant on and is therefore under attack?

Anyways - whatever the details - that is the gist of why MSE is slow at present and MSE is onto it trying to sort it out. You've never seen anything so fast in your life though, in reverse, as a cyberwar "battlefield" on Twitter. I couldnt possibly keep up yesterday - there was literally hundreds of "tweets" every minute and my head spun and I gave up trying to see what was happening..

(and that has to be the longest time ever that it just took me to type that message - as it kept freezing...)

sammy_kaye18

Ah so its not just my dinosaur of a computer playing me up then.

Well am finally managing to sit down with tea and toast for the first time this morning despite being up since 6am.

Ben is chilling on the sofa now after another crying fit that his tummy was hurting - so have given him a hot water bottle now but he's still in pain when he coughs. no idea how to help that though.

It dawned on me earlier that Owen hasn't eaten since Saturday lunch time so have some cup of soups in the cupboard and will try and get some of that down him later hopefully.

I'm thinking that they both have proper flu though rather than anything untowardly nasty but the aches are getting Owen because he can barely move and I keep getting whimpering cries form Ben that his tummy is hurting every time he coughs.

could be a very long day................oh to be holly sat in his bouncer fighting with her blanket without a care in the world.

kidcat

Sammy be careful, as someone posted a couple of days ago, swine flu is back. good luck.

Well been a very busy weekend, day came and helped me get tree into pot and upright, then kids and I got decorations from loft. Yesterday we went to see Santa at the forest, was lovely as ever and kids were thrilled. Have managed to get two trees decorated, all outside lights up and some other bits done. Keeping an eye on electrics usage this year and making sure we only use outdoor stuff when its dark and we in to. appreciate it.
Still not got sofa upstairs, am dreading trying it, to all those who said about giving notice before change, I have been doing that for weeks, since Sept, he just doesn't want rid. Some things can be got round but this is obviously not one of them. Thanks for the support though, it helped me clarify if I had done anything different this time, or if this was just a sticky one. He is on Asd, spectrum, but not diagnosed, we struggling to get appropriate diagnosis and advice.
Starting to feel more Christmasy but so busy this week, am hoping we don't like it!!!!

Sammy - I think you should contact someone official and let them know you have care of your niece, that clears you should anything go wrong.

sammy_kaye18

kidcat wrote: »

Sammy be careful, as someone posted a couple of days ago, swine flu is back. good luck.

Well that just scared the bejesus out of me! :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Ben dozing on the sofa now - just given him some cough medicine so hoping that will sooth him for now so he can get some sleep and doze it off a bit.

CRANKY40

Sammy, when children are little they have a gland in their tummy similar to the glands/nodes in the neck which swell up when they have a sore throat. It shrinks as they get older, but when they're little, any illness can result in tummy ache as the tummy gland tries to fight off infection. I had this explained to me by a doctor in out of hours when George had a sore throat but scared me by crying and saying his tummy was really hurting too.

sammy_kaye18

CRANKY40 wrote: »

Sammy, when children are little they have a gland in their tummy similar to the glands/nodes in the neck which swell up when they have a sore throat. It shrinks as they get older, but when they're little, any illness can result in tummy ache as the tummy gland tries to fight off infection. I had this explained to me by a doctor in out of hours when George had a sore throat but scared me by crying and saying his tummy was really hurting too.

Yeah I thought it was where he had been coughing so much but given him chesty cough medicine now and he's zonked out on the sofa so just going to leave him to it I think.

Not heard a peep from Owen though but figure he's sleeping his off - not sure what's best to try and feed them all later if anything at all. Owen is warm but not feverish - would say just generally poorly and ben is the same but not eating in a while can make you feel rubbish and tired too cant it?? I have cup of soups etc so might try him with one of them.

have started sneezing a beaut now too - and am conscious of some aching around my back/ribs area - off to disinfect door handles, toilet flush etc etc