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Jeff_Bridges_hair

lightSwitch wrote: »

That is the problem. If you are decent the gold diggers hone in. You are doing the right thing whilst they have ulterior motives. Like I mentioned you discover them when they start having hissy fits usually over presents that's when you pack their bags and put them in the front garden!

Im decent and have not had any gold digger move in.. maybe im not doing something right here..


Oh yeh i have a missus

Lirin

My partner bought me a car when we'd been dating only a couple of weeks. I'd felt bad about it, but my car had died a horrible death and I couldn't afford a new one- and to top it off, was newly in a job and hand't received the first paycheck from it!
He's a very decent person, always willing to help people out.
Point being, we married in May, and not everyone that needs help is a gold-digger. We don't spend a lot on gifts for eachother- our fun Christmas is spending £100 on eachother and seeing just how much we can buy- and we help eachother out whenever we can.

There is hope for decent guys- you just need a decent girl to recognise it!

lightSwitch_3

Lirin wrote: »

My partner bought me a car when we'd been dating only a couple of weeks. I'd felt bad about it, but my car had died a horrible death and I couldn't afford a new one- and to top it off, was newly in a job and hand't received the first paycheck from it!
He's a very decent person, always willing to help people out.
Point being, we married in May, and not everyone that needs help is a gold-digger. We don't spend a lot on gifts for eachother- our fun Christmas is spending £100 on eachother and seeing just how much we can buy- and we help eachother out whenever we can.

There is hope for decent guys- you just need a decent girl to recognise it!

You are obviously decent to each other.

giantmutantbroccoli

lightSwitch wrote: »

Unfortunately I have become very cynical about women that have little to their name other than a job and rented accommodation. They are usually looking for some poor shmuck to get them out of their situation and propel them into the chanels, armanis and luis vittons.

lightSwitch wrote: »

This is real not misogenistic.
It is hard for me to trust women with hard luck stories. I used to think " damsels in distress" now I'm think "hmm a possible gold digger".

Try re-reading what you wrote, and pay special attention to the bolded bits. Yes, you can lose money to people who would take advantage of your apparent good nature, I'm not denying that! I'm having a problem with the bit where you specifically say that women are the problem, that poor women/women who don't own their own houses are automatically after your money. This is NOT "usual" behaviour, regardless of sex/gender/whatever!
I've met guys who sponged off their girlfriends shamelessly. I've also met guys (dated one, lol) who assume that if they give a girl presents (whether asked for or not) that girl owes them something - and not usually of the monetary kind. I don't think either behaviour is acceptable!
In the future it would be a good idea to make sure that if you loan somebody something, they know that it is a loan and not a gift.

lightSwitch_3

giantmutantbroccoli wrote: »

Try re-reading what you wrote, and pay special attention to the bolded bits. Yes, you can lose money to people who would take advantage of your apparent good nature, I'm not denying that! I'm having a problem with the bit where you specifically say that women are the problem, that poor women/women who don't own their own houses are automatically after your money. This is NOT "usual" behaviour, regardless of sex/gender/whatever!
I've met guys who sponged off their girlfriends shamelessly. I've also met guys (dated one, lol) who assume that if they give a girl presents (whether asked for or not) that girl owes them something - and not usually of the monetary kind. I don't think either behaviour is acceptable!
In the future it would be a good idea to make sure that if you loan somebody something, they know that it is a loan and not a gift.

If you check my wording carefully you will see that I'm as specific as the natural order of things allows me to be.
Of course there are men that sponge off women.
Women the world over are brought up to believe that men are there to look after them, men are brought up to think that too - this is where the problem starts.
In traditional societies women expect to be looked after and they do their bit too, that is fine, no gold digging there.

Both Men and women expect sex when they are in a relationship what is wrong with that?

popadom

lightSwitch wrote: »

If you check my wording carefully you will see that I'm as specific as the natural order of things allows me to be.
Of course there are men that sponge off women.
Women the world over are brought up to believe that men are there to look after them, men are brought up to think that too - this is where the problem starts.
In traditional societies women expect to be looked after and they do their bit too, that is fine, no gold digging there.

Both Men and women expect sex when they are in a relationship what is wrong with that?

And i take it you went to work and did everything as well... i think you got something out of this (hint its 3 letters and starts with S and ends with X)
You were just as bad, and yes some women are brought up like that but its the men that let them get away with it that are at falut. You most likely kicked her out when you go bored/lack of sex.

Please dont tar women witht the same brush, or im sure thier are lots of women who could go on about money grabbing, cheating, cant clean a thing men just to even out the playing feild.

giantmutantbroccoli

lightSwitch wrote: »

If you check my wording carefully you will see that I'm as specific as the natural order of things allows me to be.
Of course there are men that sponge off women.
Women the world over are brought up to believe that men are there to look after them, men are brought up to think that too - this is where the problem starts.
In traditional societies women expect to be looked after and they do their bit too, that is fine, no gold digging there.

Both Men and women expect sex when they are in a relationship what is wrong with that?

What? The "natural order of things"? What the heck does that mean?

Oh, and in "traditional societies" (not 100% sure what you mean by this) women were often treated very poorly! It's not a case of them having nice cushy lives being protected by their menfolk, they wre prevented from doing things because of their gender. Being a woman does not automatically mean you are good at sewing, or bad at joinery, but it does mean (esp. in those sort of societies) that you're more likely to be given a sewing needle and less likely to be given a hammer.

There's nothing wrong with expecting sex from a relationship if the other person is also expecting it, I'm not sure why you thought I was anti-sex! The problem lies in this weird belief that women don't want sex, that they have to be somehow compensated for having to have sex by gifts and presents, and that, therefore, if a man gives a woman presents it means that she OWES him sex. And no, I was not saying that you had that sort of relationship.

I'm speaking as a woman who was brought up to believe that she should stand on her own two feet, and not take that kind of garbage from anyone - and I'm not alone, either.

lightSwitch_3

rgay1992 wrote: »

And i take it you went to work and did everything as well... i think you got something out of this (hint its 3 letters and starts with S and ends with X)
You were just as bad, and yes some women are brought up like that but its the men that let them get away with it that are at falut. You most likely kicked her out when you go bored/lack of sex.

Please dont tar women witht the same brush, or im sure thier are lots of women who could go on about money grabbing, cheating, cant clean a thing men just to even out the playing feild.

A few of you here equate this whole thing to sex. Unfortunately it is the gold digging women who equate this whole thing to sex.

I was just as bad? Really, so you were there then? Hmm

lightSwitch_3

giantmutantbroccoli wrote: »

What? The "natural order of things"? What the heck does that mean?

Oh, and in "traditional societies" (not 100% sure what you mean by this) women were often treated very poorly! It's not a case of them having nice cushy lives being protected by their menfolk, they wre prevented from doing things because of their gender. Being a woman does not automatically mean you are good at sewing, or bad at joinery, but it does mean (esp. in those sort of societies) that you're more likely to be given a sewing needle and less likely to be given a hammer.

There's nothing wrong with expecting sex from a relationship if the other person is also expecting it, I'm not sure why you thought I was anti-sex! The problem lies in this weird belief that women don't want sex, that they have to be somehow compensated for having to have sex by gifts and presents, and that, therefore, if a man gives a woman presents it means that she OWES him sex. And no, I was not saying that you had that sort of relationship.

I'm speaking as a woman who was brought up to believe that she should stand on her own two feet, and not take that kind of garbage from anyone - and I'm not alone, either.

I'm not talking about the distant past I'm talking about young girls/women living today. Most are brought up on the principal and are further influenced by society to accept that men are the bread winners and they will rely on a man. This is just a fact.

Gold diggers use this socio/economic setup to fleece guys, guys primed from their youth to accept unquestioningly that they must look after their woman, therefore unable to see the train reck ahead.

A few people here, said that because I got sex I should pay up. What a load of rubbish. For a start, they didn't stop to think that she got an equal measure of sex, and secondly, had she requested sex for material goodies I would have said no. And guess what, she made that proposition three times and I declined her slutedness each time.

dmg24

lightSwitch wrote: »

A few of you here equate this whole thing to sex. Unfortunately it is the gold digging women who equate this whole thing to sex.

I was just as bad? Really, so you were there then? Hmm

You are very bitter lightSwitch. Get over it!