Ebay scam, If you are looking to sell using ebay and paypal, my advice don't do it!

Crowqueen

The seller takes on a lot of risks, all eBay and Paypal do is provide facilities to match buyer and seller and ask for payment from the seller to list and if the sale goes through. Every listing says "The seller takes all responsibility for this listing", which includes the risk involved in the sale of the item. The User Agreement would make sure that the contract between the seller paying eBay for the listing spelt out that eBay and Paypal were not liable for fraud on behalf of the buyer. The seller is buying a service which eBay and Paypal provide, not signing away their own liability in the process if anything goes wrong.

If that's illegal, then eBay and Paypal would not be able to function properly and would go out of business.

@Arriva - I have experience with World of Warcraft accounts, and it is possible that a keylogger - a program for figuring out passwords etc. through recording every keystroke made by the user and sending back a file to the original hacker - found its way onto the account-holder's machine. WoW accounts which are dormant are vulnerable to such attacks because the user thinks they are safer than if they are using the account regularly, and may not even notice their account has been stolen; and the regularity of successful hacking attempts suggests it's not scaremongering to urge users to keep their PCs safe from these programs. That is why I have enabled script-blocking programs on my internet browser. It's by no means uncommon, unfortunately. We have absolutely no idea whether the person involved gave away their details to a third party by mistake, through a phishing attempt, or that the account was even hijacked in the first place.

Dolly-Rocket

As mentioned previously.........google throws up lots. The buyer in this instance is a technical whizz kid.

macfly

Crowqueen wrote: »

The seller takes on a lot of risks, all eBay and Paypal do is provide facilities to match buyer and seller and ask for payment from the seller to list and if the sale goes through. Every listing says "The seller takes all responsibility for this listing", which includes the risk involved in the sale of the item. The User Agreement would make sure that the contract between the seller paying eBay for the listing spelt out that eBay and Paypal were not liable for fraud on behalf of the buyer. The seller is buying a service which eBay and Paypal provide, not signing away their own liability in the process if anything goes wrong.

If that's illegal, then eBay and Paypal would not be able to function properly and would go out of business.

No no no no no . Very flawed logic. The case quoted was a comment on Post Office Limited, a rather larger institution than ebay and one which had operated quite happily with those illegal terms and conditions for decades - until challenged. The judge was saying no matter what the terms and conditions quoted by the company, they must be fair, i.e. legal. Writing it on your site makes it neither. Paypal do in fact protect you from chargebacks, not for humanitarian reasons, because they have to given the above criteria.
I was just speculating, as ebay force you to offer paypal, whether the same applies.

StaffsSW

So many great legal minds on here....

macfly

Read it all again if you have trouble sleeping.

OwtForNowt

What did the guy who picked up the TV look like? Did he look like the guy on pacmania82's Flickr account?

arriva

Dolly-Rocket wrote: »

As mentioned previously.........google throws up lots. The buyer in this instance is a technical whizz kid.

there is a picture called "Me" here with a name and surname:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pacmania1982/421261007/#/

I didn't really look much into it and it's "pacmania1982" rather than "pacmania82", I thought was from the US but the the keyboard of the netbook on one of the other pictures has what it looks like a UK keyboard.

Adsingleton: does that face ring a bell..?

Dolly-Rocket

I've asked Adam as I saw the pic too, but pacmania82 sent his driver who didn't resemble him. However man on phone and driver were not the same person.

And yes I've just noticed the 1982 too!

hermum

The address that you got through from paypal to send the goods, have you checked it out on google maps, see what the actual address is, one a little while ago was I think a guest house.

adsingleton

Thats a really good idea, I will check that