Mobility query can other family members HAVE the car

livewire600

I manage my mums finances and she is on the full invalidity benefit. Another brother has asked me if he can have a car on themobility benefit through my mum. I am so very distraught about this as my mum will NOT understand it & knows nothing about it-she is VERY unwordly and will not know that she will be giving up her £49 a week so that her son gets a new car fully paid up in her name and he will then (he says) pay her the benefit back ie the £49 a week she is giving up. He does go to see her every week but does NOT take her anywhere as she is severely disabled and canot move at all. I am convnced this HAS to be against the rules SURELY? I cant agree to this but is it wrong? My brother says it isnt wrong. She will continue to use a taxi service 3 days a week (6 trips to and fro) to the day centre as he works and could not be available to take her. What do I do? I have to know the facts to deny him honestly. She will of course have to sign for it but is not capable of understanding what she will be doing and this apart is wrong too

welshmoneylover

livewire600 wrote: »

I manage my mums finances and she is on the full invalidity benefit. Another brother has asked me if he can have a car on themobility benefit through my mum. I am so very distraught about this as my mum will NOT understand it & knows nothing about it-she is VERY unwordly and will not know that she will be giving up her £49 a week so that her son gets a new car fully paid up in her name and he will then (he says) pay her the benefit back ie the £49 a week she is giving up. He does go to see her every week but does NOT take her anywhere as she is severely disabled and canot move at all. I am convnced this HAS to be against the rules SURELY? I cant agree to this but is it wrong? My brother says it isnt wrong. She will continue to use a taxi service 3 days a week (6 trips to and fro) to the day centre as he works and could not be available to take her. What do I do? I have to know the facts to deny him honestly. She will of course have to sign for it but is not capable of understanding what she will be doing and this apart is wrong too

Are you serious? Or just daft perhaps?
The word FRAUD is jumping out at me from this post!

Indie_Kid

The car has to be for her benefit. She doesn't have to be in the car - but it has to be used to help her. (ie, someone to get her shopping)

calleyw

sh1305 wrote: »

The car has to be for her benefit. She doesn't have to be in the car - but it has to be used to help her. (ie, someone to get her shopping)

If you say so.

Ask mobility what they say?

Ask the DVLA what they say?

You might be surprised by the answers.

Yours

Calley

Oldernotwiser

calleyw wrote: »

If you say so.

Ask mobility what they say?

Ask the DVLA what they say?

You might be surprised by the answers.

Yours

Calley

Don't you mean Motability?

alwaysonthego_2

sh1305 wrote: »

The car has to be for her benefit. She doesn't have to be in the car - but it has to be used to help her. (ie, someone to get her shopping)

http://www.motabilitycarscheme.co.uk//documents/website/Mot%20Ops/Publications/Your%20guide%20to%20getting%20a%20Motability%20car.pdf

According to page 11 [bottom] it states that the car has to primarily used for the claimant even if they are not in it.

I would agree with Welsh that it would be fraud for the son to pay the equivilant of the DLA to his mother so he can have a new car at a reduced rate. The agreement would be in the mother's name.


Q. Does the recipient of the mobility allowance always have to travel in the car?
A. The car is provided for the benefit of the disabled person. But, they do not always need to be in the car, for example having someone else using the car to do the shopping or run errands is still of great benefit.

http://www.motability.co.uk/main.cfm?Type=PFAQ

lou031205

The car has to be primarily used for her benefit, which means that at least 50% of the journeys have to be for her transportation or her shopping, etc. So tell your brother that as long as he is planning to take your mum on 10 journeys per week (presuming he would use the car for 2 journeys on 5 days a week to work), then a journeys for every journey he uses the car for socially, it's fine.

He is abusing your mother by even suggesting it. Do not allow this.

[Deleted User]

calleyw wrote: »

If you say so.

Ask mobility what they say?

Ask the DVLA what they say?

You might be surprised by the answers.

Yours

Calley

its nothing to do with the dvla and everything to do with motability(who btw are a charity),as already stated the car has to be used 100% for the benefit of the registered owner(i.e the person whos dla is being used to pay for the car)
the OP should point this out to the person who is attempting to committ FRAUD

[Deleted User]

lou031205 wrote: »

The car has to be primarily used for her benefit, which means that at least 50% of the journeys have to be for her transportation or her shopping, etc. So tell your brother that as long as he is planning to take your mum on 10 journeys per week (presuming he would use the car for 2 journeys on 5 days a week to work), then a journeys for every journey he uses the car for socially, it's fine.

He is abusing your mother by even suggesting it. Do not allow this.

UTTER rubbish there is NO repeat NO % rule,the car has to be used at all times for the purpose of transporting the claimant or on their behalf(e.g collecting prescriptions from chemist or shopping for them)
anything else is F R A U D

Hammyman

Seconded. The car can only be used either to transport your mother or to do tasks for her such as doing shopping. It can't be used by your brother for him to run around in.

TOBRUK

livewire600, I agree with all the people here who have given you the information on how the car is only to be used for the benefit of the recipient - for your mother's benefit. What your brother is proposing is fraud but more important to you is that if your brother goes ahead with this FRAUD which your mother would be a part of, if caught your mother could lose her DLA.

You can print out the rules for motability from the DWP site for your mother to read, or you could print out from this forum!

Your brother is scheming as you know and doesn't take his mothers' situation into account at all does he? If this went ahead, can you honestly see him giving your mother £49 a week for her HRM DLA??! Then she would be out of pocket - how would she pay for the taxi fares which her mobility component is supposed to be used for? The £49 per week she gets of mobility DLA is supposed to be used for her mobility, to help her get around and make her life easier - NOT your brother!!

I appreciate that you are in the middle of this scheming by your brother and trying to get your mother to understand what he is proposing IS fraud and she could end up in a lot of trouble, but you must stop this going ahead for the sake of your mother.