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MSE Parents Club Part 14

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  • Soft play sounds good to me and I'll be driving so I cango wherever is easiest :)
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  • r.mac_2
    r.mac_2 Posts: 4,746 Forumite
    CAFCGirl wrote: »
    It wasnt so much that, they just ganged up on me LOL

    Please?????????????
    I'm dying here for evil people!

    See this is what I mean about you lot, you're all so lovely and I know would never dream of coming out with the carp I got off the mummy nazis earlier.....

    Anyway in short to explain (I did type this all out earlier but before I could copy whilst it was posting I got the delightful Internet Explorer is being a twonk message)

    So we go to baby massage (make an effort thinks I)
    Only 4 there inc me, with the only boy (which was sad as there was only 1 other boy first time as well)

    Anyway........... the bl**ding woman running it EYP we'll call her, asks me in front of everyone why I wasnt there last week..
    Response
    "Oh well my husband works shifts and he doesnt get much time with L, and as it was his day off I wanted them to have the time together and I didnt know if he would be ok to come along. I tried phoning to check but noone answered. Last time you said it was ok if we had to miss a week because we go back over the previous week at the start so I thought it would be ok"

    EYP
    "Well if you had been here last week we wouldnt HAVE to go back over it, because everyone else here had attended"

    *Note noone jumps in to say "oh well I wouldnt mind going back over it*

    Then Pink Mummy 1 pipes up
    "I dont know about anyone else but I wouldnt feel comfortable with your husband here as last week we had all the babies naked for the session, and I wouldnt like my daughter being naked around strange men, and she loved having the freedom last time so.........."

    *Note my husband is not a raging !!!!! attending baby massage so he can groom them, he was going to go so that he could learn how to bond better with his son*

    Pink Mummy 2
    "Oh I hadnt thought of that, good point... because you never know do you"

    Follow everyone staring at me....

    Before I could blurt out any kind of response EYP gets started, and it was so uncomfortable, none of them would talk to me, I tried joining in the conversation but they'd just start talking about things they buy for their girls, dresses and the like...

    So I just concentrated on L, desperately trying not to cry, and waited for them all to leave before me.

    Spoke to some woman on the desk about my unreturned messages for the HV to come have her chat about weaning because we're away, and I got told she'll get back to me when she can....

    I then asked if I was able to fit into the next baby massage set as I wouldnt be able to attend the last week, so had only attended two, so she goes into the room to ask EYP, comes back out and I get

    "No I'm sorry those spaces are reserved for those mummies whose children are just coming up for 3 months, we dont have space for any babies who dont meet that"

    So I said "Oh ok I thought I'd ask, because theres a woman there with a 7 month old daughter, who said she missed out on them when she was 3 months and I figured it was worth asking so not to worry but thankyou"

    THEN
    She says "That was a special case, with different circumstance, not because of personal feelings"......

    So obv EYP has told her about the exchange in some twisted manner.

    And then I just couldnt hold it in, just started crying and left with L in my arms, so idiot chavs had parked their pushchairs in front of mine and hemmed it in, so I had to move theres to get mine and she didnt offer me any help whatsoever....

    And I just walked home crying all the way...
    Forgot that I was supposed to call at the co-op for milk, so soon as I got home and realised, started crying again, had two feeds left, so fed L, and went out again and now I just hate everyone bar you fine people...........

    God what an explanation...
    I just hate it. I dont know whats so wrong with me that they'd be that horrible. I dont wanna rant about it anywhere but here because I dont want DH to know what they said. So I need to vent it here (Im so sorry to you all), before he gets home, get all the tears out and return to normality....
    Just feel like that was a potential outlet to make friends and I've been brandished like some scarlet lady....

    CAFC - I can't go on reading any further without replying to this. I think it's horrible the way those women acted. Yes, there are horrible elements to the world we live in, but to suggest that someone's husband whom they had never met was a peadophile while you were in the room, and no-one say that it was out of order is despicable.

    I am embarrassed that there are woman like that in this world. Small minded and inconsiderate to the extreme.

    I think that the way it was handled was even more appalling. A so called child-expert such as a HV should know that it can be difficult for anyone with children to attend a class every week - in particularly new mothers with young children/child. FWIW I think your 'excuse' for not attending shows how good a mother you are - making sure you and your DH spent QUALITY time with your LO. That is the important thing here.

    Your HV is a total idiot - and I would be tempted to make a complaint to your Practice manager about her. I understand that you can request not to be seen/treated by someone within your GP practice.

    As an aside, please let your DH into how you are feeling. You sound quite down, even before this incident and as a new mum lots has changed and you need support. Your DH will want to know I'm sure. You don't have to tell him what they said if you don't want, but let him know you are sad and finding it hard to meet people.

    It's hard, but don't let this stop you fromg etting out there and trying different activities. I think others have mentioned that there are sure start centres in various regions and most towns have several toddler groups. the trick is to try a few until you meet people you 'click' with.

    I hope you read this with the kindness that's intended. I think you sound like you need some support x
    aless02 wrote: »
    r.mac, you are so wise and wonderful, that post was lovely and so insightful!
    I can't promise that all my replies will illicit this response :p
  • SugarSpun
    SugarSpun Posts: 8,559 Forumite
    Scottish ladies, the Family SS will be in Edinburgh on the 22nd November for a few days. Any builders want to show me their spirit levels? Or recommend cheapish centralish B&Bs for people who want to buy a cheapy crappy pushchair and not hire a car if we can avoid it?

    Or recommend things to do for when we do want to hire a car and travel outside the city a bit?
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  • Would one of the Scottish pushchair addicts not lend you one, SS? Tia and Caz both spring to mind :rotfl:.
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  • r.mac_2
    r.mac_2 Posts: 4,746 Forumite
    I can't wait until Benjamin is as cute as E Bruno :D


    Can anyone recommend any nicely rhyming childrens books for bedtime?

    For the last 3 nights I have read a book called 'Down on the Farm' which Benjamin got as a gift from his pre-school at Easter (I can't find a link but it is a beautiful book, I will find it and post it at some point).

    We are both really enjoying Down on the Farm because is has a lovely pace and a rhythm and rhyme to it that makes it flow.

    We have lots of the classics, bear hunt etc but I think they are more about active reading rather than bedtime reading if that makes any sense...


    So - what do you recommend to read to a 19 month old at bedtime?

    We do books back to front! We read them together in mummy's bed in the morning because, like you, we love books and get very over excited at some of them :rotfl: We also sit down with books throughout the day. its hard to rea to her when she's in her cot as it tends to wake her up rather than help her settle - the same if we read to her once she's out of the bath, so we are waiting to introduce the bedtime story when she goes into a bed. For now, I just make a point of going to the library and reading at other times. Perhaps you could o bedtime
    story before bath or teeth?

    aless02 wrote: »
    GISI, if you're around can I pick your brain? What do you with lentils to give them to Henry? I'm afraid I am still a lentil novice so my creative juices don't know how to make them interesting/baby-friendly!

    Annabel Karemls' lovely lentils
    weezl74 wrote: »
    hi all, shockingly behind the times on the thread as ever, but wondered if the following wording might be of use to you cafcgirl.

    Dear (director of organisation running baby massage lessons),

    I am writing to express my concern about an incident of sexual discrimination on (date) at (place) with (name).

    I mentioned to (name of group leader), that I wanted my husband to attend the baby massage class. Another parent commented that she would not like to have a male parent present while her child is naked, due to the possibility of sexual molestation of her child. Your representative colluded with this view, and further, it was not immediately made abundantly clear that fathers were not to be discriminated against in their use of your services to parents.

    It is clear that your organisation would not allow a parent to be excluded from or made to feel uncomfortable about their uptake of your services due to their ethnicity or sexuality, and therefore I am saddened and dismayed for your organisation that this sexual discrimination is evident. I am sure you are similarly dismayed.


    I urge you to look into this with your staff members at your earliest convenience.

    i think weezl is one of the cleverest mummies I know. I see that you've written to them CAFC. As you can see I was so outraged I had to respond before reading the rest of the thread. :rotfl:

    We've had a good week, which is nice. Off to visit friends this afternoon. Annabel can now clib out of her cot now and does if she's in it during the day if i'm pottering in her room and she's playing, but hasn't worked out that taking off her sleeping bag will allow her to climb out at night. I'm not telling her - so please don't you either :rotfl: She can take the sleeping bag off when she wants so it's just a matter of time........Would E, V, B and others please stop leading my daughter astray...:D
    aless02 wrote: »
    r.mac, you are so wise and wonderful, that post was lovely and so insightful!
    I can't promise that all my replies will illicit this response :p
  • Becles
    Becles Posts: 13,184 Forumite
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    CAFCGirl wrote: »

    Becles - When you wrote "I told Craig" I was like how the hell did you tell my husband LOL.....

    :rotfl:

    I get confused when someone comments about Charlotte and I think I didn't write that about Charlotte, then realise they mean JAM's Charlotte :o:rotfl:

    Well done on the letter Weezl. Hope it gets you an apology.
    SugarSpun wrote: »
    Oh !!!!!! :mad:

    I bought a book as a gift and had it sent to my mother to save on postage. She's bloody read it, creasing the spine :mad:

    My Mam has given me books as presents and sometimes I'm sure she has read them first :D

    Just dropped Charlotte off at nursery. There are two foundation stage groups split between two classrooms. Charlotte's classroom is having the windows fixed, so they've got both classes in one classroom for today. It's seemed very chaotic!

    Saw a lady I know in Tesco who has a disabled girl. She was in primary school with James, but the secondary school couldn't accomodate her needs so she had to go to a special school instead. James has been worried about her, so he'll be relieved to know that she's settled in fine.
    Here I go again on my own....
  • r.mac_2
    r.mac_2 Posts: 4,746 Forumite
    edited 14 October 2010 at 12:24PM
    SS - would a Mclaren volo be any good to you? or are you wanting it for the airport either side?

    Edinburgh has a premier inn (lauriston place) and a travel lodge (just off royal mile), both very central that often do cheap and cheerful priced rooms. Worth checking out.

    If you are flying there is a great bus into the centre of town from the airport that doesn't take long. http://www.flybybus.com/

    Fife is lovely if you have a car - an hour and a half tops to St. Andrews, the home of golf and the stomping ground for my (first) degree :D You can also get there by train. train to leuchars then bus or taxi to St. ANdrews.
    aless02 wrote: »
    r.mac, you are so wise and wonderful, that post was lovely and so insightful!
    I can't promise that all my replies will illicit this response :p
  • dt1_2
    dt1_2 Posts: 74 Forumite
    ss I am hoping your excellent shopping skills will help me find a good deal on a pretty set og GHD's for DD xmas pressie. If you don't have time don't worry. ( and ladies these are the best sort to have?) thank you.xx
    DS1 1989 - DD 1994 - DS2 -2009
  • SugarSpun
    SugarSpun Posts: 8,559 Forumite
    I wouldn't mind if it was for me, Becles, but if I'm giving it to someone else I want it to look like a new book :(

    We need a regular small folding type pushchair for holidays anyway so I shall do my research and find one when we get there. Hopefully somewhere will have a baby event on :rotfl: We're staying in Murrayfield, I did loads of B&B searching but found a regular hotel with a massive sale on so it's only £40/night :money:
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  • r.mac_2
    r.mac_2 Posts: 4,746 Forumite
    murryfield is a nice choice SS. Close to the zoo too ;) Pick up a leaflet or the zoo when you see it - often it has a money off voucher on it.

    If you do your research SS and think a Mclaren volo might work for you let me know ;)
    aless02 wrote: »
    r.mac, you are so wise and wonderful, that post was lovely and so insightful!
    I can't promise that all my replies will illicit this response :p
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