£70 Parking Fine in non P&D Car Park

bluelagoon_3

sarahg1969 wrote: »

I haven't seen one mentioned. I also haven't seen a single one where someone has started a thread in anticipation of a court hearing, which has gone ahead and been lost by the defendant. You'd think there would also be one of those too, wouldn't you?

However, I believe there is a defended case listed for hearing in April, so I shall keep my eye open for it.

Perhaps Bluelagoon can tell us, though, as he has access to more information than we do, from CPS.

I would be pleased to ask CPS any questions that you want. Feel free to post and I will respond.

bluelagoon_3

joe1965 wrote: »

Jealous of you? What a joke. I probably earn more than you do with your preying on motorists.

Mine's bigger than yours!

joe1965 wrote: »

Unfortunately, once again you are wrong! Although there are lists, which can be found on the internet, the person who provided me with the information is in a position to find out by a simple phone call. But once again you make a statement so it must be right. Nobody can know something that you don’t.

On the internet? A person? A simple phone call? Come on, surely even you can do better than this nonsense?

joe1965 wrote: »

And you have provided solid evidence for everything you have said haven’t you? Judgements which when shown to a staff member of a county court they have reason to believe there is something wrong with them. But of course you will know better than the likes of them won’t you? All you have done is sprout off the company policy.

"Reason to believe there is something wrong with them"

Would you care to elaborate?

Sorry, it's just I prefer actual facts or proof, not unfounded gossip.

bluelagoon_3

sarahg1969 wrote: »

You beat me to it, Frank. Thank you. I would do exactly the same.

Labman, Superscaper, marleyboy, what would you do if you received an invoice from a PPC, when you were not the person who parked the vehicle?

Just speaking personally here, if I lent my car to a friend then I'd expect them to do the right thing and pay up - I certainly wouldn't want to pay the parking charge myself.

I once borrowed a friend's car and drove through a Police speed trap. I owned up and paid without even considering trying to avoid it. I guess this is really a moral question, not a legal one.

bluelagoon_3

everythingblogcast wrote: »

No one owns land in this world. Failing that The Queen is the only person in the UK that owns any land.

I love this comment!

Thank you 'everythingblogcast' for making us all laugh.

joe1965

Labman wrote: »

....yes...like that scenario is going to happen!...show me your details joe....your postal address is fine.?

You asking me to break forum rules? :lipsrseal

marleyboy

sarahg1969 wrote: »

Labman, Superscaper, marleyboy, what would you do if you received an invoice from a PPC, when you were not the person who parked the vehicle?

I would give it to the person who DID park the vehicle, Without hesitation, I would be the first to point the finger at the one who was driving. Ultimatley, if the vehicle in question was my car, I would accept that as the key holder, it is MY responcability to ensure the car is NEVER illegally parked.

Should I park my car illegally, I would accept I was in the wrong for so doing, and pay the fine, as mentioned previously "thats my choice".( I wouldnt attempt the "it wasnt me driving").

Should someone else have driven my car (no matter who), and committed ANY kind of offence with it, from Hit n Run, Speeding, Reckless Driving AND illegal parking. Unless it was stolen from me, I can assume I would know who was driving MY vehicle and I would report them. Certainly not cover up for them.

All these vain questions are completely irrelevant to the question posed as to wether or not a parking fine is enforceable. Which Bluelagoon has succesfully pointed out that "it is". So far NOBODY else has succesfully pointed out that "it isnt", I therefore assume that it is enforcable.

Whether I like the idea or not is as irrelevant as the question you have posted. which bears absolutley NO connection to the leading question.

peter_the_piper

""All these vain questions are completely irrelevant to the question posed as to wether or not a parking fine is enforceable. Which Bluelagoon has succesfully pointed out that "it is". So far NOBODY else has succesfully pointed out that "it isnt", I therefore assume that it is enforcable.""
Parking fines eg those by the councils or police are indeed enforceable however the invoices issued by PPC's are not. The only reason its not possible to prove a win against them is because they always do a runner before the court case when there's the merest chance of losing. There's many a person over on Pepipoo who would love these PPC's to actually take them to court but noone has. Maybe we could get Blue Lagoon to take them up on their offer. I won't hold my breath though.

sarahg1969

marleyboy wrote: »

I would give it to the person who DID park the vehicle, Without hesitation, I would be the first to point the finger at the one who was driving. Ultimatley, if the vehicle in question was my car, I would accept that as the key holder, it is MY responcability to ensure the car is NEVER illegally parked.

Should I park my car illegally, I would accept I was in the wrong for so doing, and pay the fine, as mentioned previously "thats my choice".( I wouldnt attempt the "it wasnt me driving").

Should someone else have driven my car (no matter who), and committed ANY kind of offence with it, from Hit n Run, Speeding, Reckless Driving AND illegal parking. Unless it was stolen from me, I can assume I would know who was driving MY vehicle and I would report them. Certainly not cover up for them.

All these vain questions are completely irrelevant to the question posed as to wether or not a parking fine is enforceable. Which Bluelagoon has succesfully pointed out that "it is". So far NOBODY else has succesfully pointed out that "it isnt", I therefore assume that it is enforcable.

Whether I like the idea or not is as irrelevant as the question you have posted. which bears absolutley NO connection to the leading question.

Marleyboy,

You are getting yourself all confused. This is NOT about illegal parking or offences at all. If it were, you would have a statutory obligation to provide such information (in the case of a driving offence) or be responsible for payment as RK (in the case of a parking contravention). In the case of an alleged contract, you do not. These are not fines. They are invoices. They are very different from fines.

This may help you understand:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?autocom=ibwiki&cmd=article&id=56

sarahg1969

peter_the_piper wrote: »

""All these vain questions are completely irrelevant to the question posed as to wether or not a parking fine is enforceable. Which Bluelagoon has succesfully pointed out that "it is". So far NOBODY else has succesfully pointed out that "it isnt", I therefore assume that it is enforcable.""
Parking fines eg those by the councils or police are indeed enforceable however the invoices issued by PPC's are not. The only reason its not possible to prove a win against them is because they always do a runner before the court case when there's the merest chance of losing. There's many a person over on Pepipoo who would love these PPC's to actually take them to court but noone has. Maybe we could get Blue Lagoon to take them up on their offer. I won't hold my breath though.

Hear, hear. It's nigh on impossible to provide such evidence unless you have been involved. However, such information IS available to Bluelagoon from CPS if he wishes to disclose it.

marleyboy

Hopefully Bluelagoon could post them, but so far he has posted many accounts when asked to do so. Enough to convince me that he knows his stuff. However, in return for his answers he has been branded "a Fake, A liar, A few Nasty things and of course has been systematically attacked over it, so why should he post anymore, no matter what he posts, your still hell bent on attacking him for it. With anything from "hope you pay your VAT"- irrelevant to the thread, "Wheres your place of work?" - Irrelevant., I could list all the posts that seem irrelevant.

I could just so easily say pepipoo is some fake site. But I wont, ultimatley I have come on here as an outsider, read all the posts, and so far Bluelagoon has succesfully posted answers and evidence. Without having to ask me to go to some website to look it up. Im all for reading some succesful cases in court where the driver GOT OFF, but as nobody seems to think its a good idea to "post" such cases, I am left with the evidence I have seen on this thread. Unfortunatley they ALL seem to come from Bluelagoon.

If they are fake, simply telling me in a post, isnt going to convince me. I want as much proof as bluelagoon has already posted. There is no point whatsoever in arguing against or for. Im interested not because I want to park illegally, or have my freinds do it for me. But because I want to know if they are true regarding Private Land. Show me some proof that they are not and I can compare them against those that are, that way I can make a judgement on it based on facts, not someone on a forum saying it is.

To be sure I dont succumb to any risks of parking fees, fines, invoices or whatever we want to name them, by simply not risking parking in a place where I know I am not supposed to. Giving me less of a chance of ever having to deal with the issue.