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£70 Parking Fine in non P&D Car Park

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  • sarahg1969
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    You have to take some responsibility of who you lend your car to.

    No, you don't. Not under contract law.

    I have no opinion one way or the other re parking charges. I just find it interesting.
  • superscaper
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    sarahg1969 wrote: »
    No, you don't. Not under contract law.

    I was speaking morally rather than whatever the specific legalities are. To extend your logic basically you'd do away with all possible charges simply by having people claim they weren't driving at the time but refuse to say who was. I think landowners should have some recourse for people who park on their land without permission and I don't see any other way practically than charging the car owner. My own personal preference would simply be that the cars can be towed away, that way if parking there does interfere with business operations then it solves that problem practically. Also car park owners need some recourse for people that flout the rules set in the car parks. Again I don't see any practical alternative.
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  • superscaper
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    Labman wrote: »
    ....if they were involved in an accident...what would you do?

    I was thinking the same thing.
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  • marleyboy
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    What if your car was involved in a hit n run, would it not help your pradicament by naming the driver.
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  • Labman wrote: »
    ....if they were involved in an accident...what would you do?


    In the case of an accident I would fulfill my statutory legal obligations and provide the driver's details.

    In the case of a private parking company I would also fulfill my legal obligations – and tell the PPC nothing.
  • sarahg1969
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    In the case of an accident I would fulfill my statutory legal obligations and provide the driver's details.

    In the case of a private parking company I would also fulfill my legal obligations – and tell the PPC nothing.

    You beat me to it, Frank. Thank you. I would do exactly the same.

    Labman, Superscaper, marleyboy, what would you do if you received an invoice from a PPC, when you were not the person who parked the vehicle?
  • sarahg1969
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    marleyboy wrote: »
    What if your car was involved in a hit n run, would it not help your pradicament by naming the driver.

    Of course. But as RK in the case of an invoice from a PPC, I would not be in a predicament.
  • joe1965
    joe1965 Posts: 62 Forumite
    Labman wrote: »
    So 'someone in the know' or 'the individual who gave me this information' or 'the person who provided me with the information is in a position to find out by a simple phone call' are 1 person. If you and he are so sure you are correct, his identity shouldn't be a problem? Unamed sources don't cut it for me I'm afraid.
    So you're saying that because bluelagoon has said perky and his merry gang has told him then that's all the evidence you need for the information to be correct?
    As for my client, it's not up to me to put his details up here. As bluelagoon stated himself, he'd never put his or the location of his business on this forum.
  • joe1965
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    Labman wrote: »
    I'd happily tell them who was driving....why wouldn't I?...I've got nothing to hide.....whatever the wrongs or rights, let the driver/parker deal with it...why should I?
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  • puddy
    puddy Posts: 12,709 Forumite
    this is very interesting.

    as i recall, this whole argument started because someone (2 years ago nearly!!!!) accidently parked where they shouldnt have, for too long.

    they asked if the ticket which was then issued was enforceable which then started this debate.

    so my question is to bluelagoon (genuine question), what about people who do park there by accident.... and just on a 'humane' (for want of a better word) level, not legally because ultimately, this is your land and you have the right to have it for whatever use you wish,, are the cars parked there at the weekend, actually affecting your business in any way??

    also, have you thought about negotiating a deal with the business opposite, who you said were quite apologetic about the situation, whereby you could lease your car park to them at the weekends for a small fee??
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